Apparently an MK built in 2008: "ALL NEW PARTS WHEN BUILT IN 2008 EXCEPT RE-CON ENGINE RE-CON XR4i LSD" but the seller then proudly says it
was "REGISTERED IN 1968 AS A TRIUMPH SPARTAN KIT CAR SO TAX EXEMPT!"
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk-Indy-Blackbird-Bike-Engine-Kit-Car-Tax-Exempt-520KG-/271243555275?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f276031cb
quote:
Originally posted by Humbug
Apparently an MK built in 2008: "ALL NEW PARTS WHEN BUILT IN 2008 EXCEPT RE-CON ENGINE RE-CON XR4i LSD" but the seller then proudly says it was "REGISTERED IN 1968 AS A TRIUMPH SPARTAN KIT CAR SO TAX EXEMPT!"
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk-Indy-Blackbird-Bike-Engine-Kit-Car-Tax-Exempt-520KG-/271243555275?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3f276031cb
There is a TAX Disc in between the two seats!!!!!!
quote:
Originally posted by omega0684
There is a TAX Disc in between the two seats!!!!!!
wouldnt mind a tax free kit car tbh
He saved the price of an IVA, another kit car crook.
quote:
Originally posted by beaver34
wouldnt mind a tax free kit car tbh
Built in 2008, I bet the DVLA would love to invoice him for 5 years back tax at the over 1550cc rate (as the Spartan clearly would be)
quote:
Originally posted by designer
He saved the price of an IVA, another kit car crook.
The Problem is that we all know what's going on here, a kit car newby however could end up spending thousands for a car that is actually illegal and due to ignorance be none the wiser until, god forbid, it gets involved in a accident that involves the insurance company or the old bill.
£6500 got an unregistered MK? Joker.
It doesn't make anysense, why would you advertise the fact that you're selling a car that is dodgy? The guy must be an idiot.
I reported it, and sent him an ebay message pointing out that it is incorrectly registered and should have been SVA/IVAd... and that if he's
insured it as a Spartan he is not covered. No rely as yet
quote:
Originally posted by bigfoot4616
quote:
Originally posted by designer
He saved the price of an IVA, another kit car crook.
crook is a bit harsh, yes he's avoided IVA and its incorrectly registered but its not as if he is trying to hide that in his advert.
i can understand it when people comment on cars when adverts don't mention incorrect registrations but he has so its up to a buyer to decide whether to take a risk on it or not.
Off to the crusher with that then lol
Dear bo55rmc,
How can your car be a MK Indy and a Spartan? Built in 2008 and Tax exempt? Sounds like it is incorrectly registered having assumed the identity of an
old Spartan.
Your car needs an IVA and to be properly registered.
Hi,
It was rebuilt in 2008 as a MK style kit car...based on a Triumph Spartan....A MK replica if you like.
Thanks
Steve
- bo55rmc
anyone with half a brain cell will be able to work out that its not registered correctly.
at the end of the day its just one more amongst the thousands of incorrectly registered cars on the road.
Would you look at that hes now change the title and description of the auction, its now a rebuilt in 2008 triumph spartan kit car.
I Asked if it had an SVA/IVA and he replied,
Hi,Not that Im aware of, how will I know this? or find this out?
Vosa are not stupid, you cant get away with putting another vehicles number plates on and then claim its a rebuilt original vehicle
If its a Triumph Spartan rebuilt with parts as claimed in 2008 it needed IVA (or equivalent) as a radically altered vehicle.
Buys it , use it , get pulled and £6500 gets crushed.
Selling it as described (revised or originally) is a criminal act.
The problem is Ebay couldn't care less, the Police don't bother unless there is a traffic offence or an accident and VOSA don't have
the resources to police their own rules.
The disadvantaged party ends up being the unwitting new owner or worse still the accident victim.
If the new owner runs into me I hope they own a nice house cause Ill have it when their insurance doesn't pay out.
quote:
Originally posted by SCAR
Vosa are not stupid, you cant get away with putting another vehicles number plates on and then claim its a rebuilt original vehicle
If its a Triumph Spartan rebuilt with parts as claimed in 2008 it needed IVA (or equivalent) as a radically altered vehicle.
Buys it , use it , get pulled and £6500 gets crushed.
Selling it as described (revised or originally) is a criminal act.
The problem is Ebay couldn't care less, the Police don't bother unless there is a traffic offence or an accident and VOSA don't have the resources to police their own rules.
The disadvantaged party ends up being the unwitting new owner or worse still the accident victim.
If the new owner runs into me I hope they own a nice house cause Ill have it when their insurance doesn't pay out.
Is there a way to report it to Vosa? Not that I imagine much will happen as we reported a Van that was left in our street for having no tax and
nothing happened to it.
I've got a feeling the above is correct, and that the insurance company sue the driver of the dodgy vehicle to get the money back, I'm sure
I read it in one of my policy documents.
[Edited on 21/7/13 by morcus]
Sounds likely, I think I recall something called the uninsured drivers fund.
I have a similar problem my 1965 Honda c50 has been rebuilt into a 2008 1000cc Honda Fireblade (with mostly new parts) wonder if I can still insure
and tax it as a c50?
morcus
What are you grass of the year?? You guys all need to get your facts right before commenting on something you are clearly not 100% with.
Do you guys all meet up at the weekends for a fondle in the woods???
quote:
Originally posted by fossycov
morcus
What are you grass of the year?? You guys all need to get your facts right before commenting on something you are clearly not 100% with.
Do you guys all meet up at the weekends for a fondle in the woods???
quote:
Originally posted by fossycov
morcus
What are you grass of the year?? You guys all need to get your facts right before commenting on something you are clearly not 100% with.
Do you guys all meet up at the weekends for a fondle in the woods???
Lmao. The owner finds his way here, always fun.
Your car is a ringer, deal with it.
Interesting response.
Dear dodger147,
If you are not interested in buying it stop messaging me! Go and tell your sad little gang on the forum to find better things to do with there time.
Just for the record I only bought the car 2 months ago as an impulse buy! This is all new too me! After hearing what all you arse holes have to say,
why the hell would anyone want to join a club of wankers anyway?? No wonder people don't do things properly!! Its like being back at school, if
you have a problem bring it to my attention not bitch about it! Thanks to the chap who politely pointed this out to me!
- bo55rmc
The seller is some sort of trade/dealer? His e-bay ID has changed twice from www.removemycar.co.uk to trade-sales and now to what the advert shows.
They know they have a ringer and trying to get rid on the bay for cheap
Thought I would register myself
Just for the record, I know nothing about all this IVA/SVA checks despite being in the motor trade, I purchased the vehicle not even 2 months ago of
ebay as an impulse buy! (Ebay Item Number: 171050559518 or click on link below)
Ebay item: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171050559518?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Do not assume everyone selling one of these is a crook or a car ringer! Have you ever stopped and though actually they could be a victim them selves??
I did question about being a Triumph but assumed and was persuaded that it was normal and was a Mk replica based on a Triumph Spartan, after all why
would I buy a car if there was any doubt there could be anything wrong or not done correctly?? It is laughable to think that I have gone into this
with complete ignorance and I will be in touch with DVLA myself I can assure you of that!
Regards
Steve
Why sign up twice??
Both called Stephen by looks of it, so maybe wanting to come across less aggressive than the first post.
[Edited on 21-7-13 by loggyboy]
Firstly, one of the seat bolts is hanging out.
Second, the reg comes back as being on a LANDROVER RANGE ROVER VOGUE TD6
So its an mk on spartan v5 using a landrover number plate think this may be a record!
quote:
Originally posted by bo55rmc
Thought I would register myself
Do not assume everyone selling one of these is a crook or a car ringer! Have you ever stopped and though actually they could be a victim them selves??
quote:
Originally posted by ste
Firstly, one of the seat bolts is hanging out.
Second, the reg comes back as being on a LANDROVER RANGE ROVER VOGUE TD6
Finally, someone with some sense! Thank you Mr Whippy!
I have only learnt of the IVA/SVA tests since having the car on eBay, which is why I have now ended it!
It would fully make sense to get it tested and legit as people have pointed out on here, why take the risk?
Love the picture by the way Snakebelly, made me laugh! (Another one who has a brain and recognised the true picture)
Regards
Steve
P.S I also noticed the bolt on the pic after taking it and that has been sorted.
Its difficult to have any sympathy with someone who's response to valid criticism and concern is so abusive. It is nice however that the seller
is a motor trader even if its one that is simply ignorant of the law regarding vehicles as claimed rather than dishonest as the come back should
someone buy it miss described is much greater.
Its the sellers legal responsibility to know what they are selling, If your not sure then you need to find out before advertising something, its not
hard.
I posted concerns on here because the members are helpful and friendly have common interests and willingly share their expertise and knowledge and I
would not like anyone of them to make a mistake buying a dodgy motor. Given the level of ignorance, and abusive responses probably not a place for
the motor trader involved then.
Its understandable to be sceptical of anyone let alone a motor trader that cant read or understand a v5 document or that a vehicle registered as a
rebuilt triumph should have some triumph parts or that a vehicle built in 2008 can qualify as being tax exempt, this doesn't require expert
knowledge. Wrong career choice perhaps.
Had the response been more "oops I didn't realise Ill try to sort it out " I know there would have been members on here offering to
give up their time to advise and help.
The abusive and insulting responses identify the sellers attitude, its understandable the reaction becomes "he wants stopping before someone gets
ripped off".
EDIT
Now we start to get somewhere and a sense of reason prevails
We'll put the earlier posts down to a knee jerk reaction
Part of the problem is down to the garage that mot'd it
Cheers
[Edited on 22/7/13 by SCAR]
[Edited on 22/7/13 by SCAR]
quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by ste
Firstly, one of the seat bolts is hanging out.
Second, the reg comes back as being on a LANDROVER RANGE ROVER VOGUE TD6
Good spot on the bolt, though the reg does relate to a 1968 Triumph Spartan kit car in blue.
I'm inclined to accept what the owner is saying and it's a shame he's now in this situation. However the car is clearly built to a very high standard and with some help from the folk on this forum he could have it sail through the IVA. He has removed the sale from eBay so no need to hound him.
Hopefully he will come back to the forum and we can all start afresh.
[Edited on 22/7/13 by Mr Whippy]
If you could take some more pictures of the car concentrating on key areas like the front suspension and interior/dash/seat belt fastenings and some
of the rest of the car and find the engine number to determine the year for emission test requirements.
You need to load the pictures into your photo archive first and then insert the picture address in the post, ask if you need help with this
Then start a new thread called something like Pre IVA checks so folk on here can have a good look at what will be required, I can't see many
issues apart from covering bolts and the bottom of the dash not having the 19mm radius.
Never know you may actually enjoy getting a chance to fiddle with it
Don't forget to check the vin plate
You may find its been cut out of the triumph or the Spartan and welded to the new mk chassis. It should have been checked during an mot. I would get
this off asap as you could still have the vehicle seized and crushed while ever it carries the false identity.
No reverse unfortunately Mr Whipp
Scar, what got my back up was rdodger contacting me on eBay, find out info, asking questions then reporting back to this forum like a child! If people
want to jump to conclusions or provide criticism in a negative way and make accusations I simply have no time for them! Anyone who has words of advise
or wants to help (which is what these forums are supposed to do) then I am all ears and very much appreciate it! Anyone else can visit
www.facebook.com
This was one for myself a toy for the summer. Even if you were a trader, this is an area of the trade you would need to research on as it is a bit
more specialised. Any area a lot of traders I know, know nothing about as its not usually a car they would ever buy too sell.
Thanks Mr Whipp, will look into this and Scar I have a funny feeling you could be right, the first thing I need to do is try and get the reg plate of the vehicle, then I will have a little bit of time to go to work on this and try to resolve it.
Im assuming it will go onto a Q plate once all sorted? it was originally on an old F plate when I bought it then put KHL33 on it as it is a dateless
reg number.
DVLA surely cannot bill someone for 5 years of tax when you have only had the car 2 months can they?
quote:
Originally posted by bo55rmc
Im assuming it will go onto a Q plate once all sorted? it was originally on an old F plate when I bought it then put KHL33 on it as it is a dateless reg number.
DVLA surely cannot bill someone for 5 years of tax when you have only had the car 2 months can they?
Nice to know it has something going for it then! :-)
Yea agree with you on the not shouting too loudly idea :-)
quote:
Originally posted by bo55rmc
......Scar, what got my back up was rdodger contacting me on eBay, find out info, asking questions then reporting back to this forum like a child! If people want to jump to conclusions or provide criticism in a negative way and make accusations I simply have no time for them! Anyone who has words of advise or wants to help (which is what these forums are supposed to do) then I am all ears and very much appreciate it! Anyone else can visit www.facebook.com.....
Understood Scar.... Thanks
Sorry, Daddylonglegs lol...Still trying to get use to how these forums work ;-)
I don't know how much the car stands you at but you need to be aware there is likely to be a fair spend getting the car legal.
Just from the pictures you have at the moment there are a few small issues that need addressing.
The car also needs to have a reverse gear added,
Assuming you have no build pictures or receipts for components that will also become a problem/headache
Then there is the £450 iva fee plus £90 per retest (this may have changed)
Registration fee + number plates + tax could be upto £200
Quite quickly the costs stack up, it could be worth cutting your losses and selling the car as an unregistered/track only car depending on what you
want at the end of all this.
Just out of interest you bought the car in good faith a few months ago,can you not go after the bloke who sold you the car knowing its not registered correctly? He is the one who has broken the rules & sold it on to you & lied about it.
Firstly get all reference to the wrong identity off the vehicle then the car is what it is, a yet to be registered kit build.
Don't be tempted to try and sell the Spartan identity.
You should cost up all the requirements to put it through IVA before you start.
The car looks a nice build and will have a good value as it is so it may be more cost effective to sell as non registered (for track use) than proceed
with iva
You could be spending about £1500 including a reverse mechanism and iva fees and you may also need a cat to meet emissions. Lots of mks with bike
engines have been through iva and others will have a better idea of the costs involved.
If vosa can prove the car has been used on the road you could be liable for a fine and back road tax, I think this is unlikely to happen.
The mot you got with the car is dodgy the mot station should have realised the reg number did not match up with the car they were testing. They may
have tested emissions as the old visual inspection only due to the reg date, the IVA test will be more up to date hence the need for a cat. We have
been advised we need a cat and a power commander to get our bike engine build through.
If you like the car do a least one track day before you move it on.
Wow.. I did not realise there was so much required and needing reverse gear, I know you can get the electric kits but If I was to do It I would want
it done with a proper reverse.
I think you may be right, scrap Triumph identity after removing private plate, maybe have some use out of it on a track and sell for 4k as a track day
car? or replace engine to Hyabusa turbo and keep as a track day car?
Car stands me a little over 6k.... Mixed opinions on the previous owner. IF..he was not aware of this (as he bought it of chap who built it) it must
have been bought to his attention on eBay as well, as it did with me? Im sure he probably did know before I come to purchase it. Its my fault at the
end of the day for going into something with my eyes closed.
The garage MoT was a question going around in my head also, how can they mot a car that isnt what it is, but then I suppose its down to education, if
the Mot tester hasn't got a clue what a Spartan or MK is, as long as it comes up on DVLA, it no sharp edges, lights and tyres are ok and
don't smoke etc why would he refuse?
Its nice that people have (eventually) become more sympathetic to the guy who has ended up holding the baby. However i really dont think we have
covered ourselves in glory as a group in the way we have dealt with this.
As things have turned out what we actually have here is someone who is keen to do things the right way and has now joined the forum. IN SPITE OF THE
TREATMENT HE HAS RECEIVED.
Surely the way it should have been dealt with was to have contacted the guy, politely advising him of the correct position in a friendly and positive
way and to invite him to join the forum to find out what the fuss was about.
Instead he was treated with rudeness and members of the forum took in turns to take the wee out of someone and try to get his car taken off the road.
This is someone with the same hobby as us- he doesnt deserve this treatment.
I really think some of us need to take a good look at ourselves here. forgot the petty zealous crusades and just make sure their own lives are up to
scratch.
quote:
Originally posted by bo55rmc
No reverse unfortunately Mr Whipp
Scar, what got my back up was rdodger contacting me on eBay, find out info, asking questions then reporting back to this forum like a child! If people want to jump to conclusions or provide criticism in a negative way and make accusations I simply have no time for them! Anyone who has words of advise or wants to help (which is what these forums are supposed to do) then I am all ears and very much appreciate it! Anyone else can visit www.facebook.com
This was one for myself a toy for the summer. Even if you were a trader, this is an area of the trade you would need to research on as it is a bit more specialised. Any area a lot of traders I know, know nothing about as its not usually a car they would ever buy too sell.
quote:
Originally posted by Not Anumber
...
I really think some of us need to take a good look at ourselves here. forgot the petty zealous crusades and just make sure their own lives are up to scratch.
Did not get upset lol I felt embarrassed for you if I'm honest. People like you deserve to buy one of these like I did and then end up tangled
between the wheels of a lorry! Will not be replying to any of your comments so please chat somewhere else 
People like you pollute these forums!
quote:
Originally posted by rdodger
quote:
Originally posted by bo55rmc
No reverse unfortunately Mr Whipp
Scar, what got my back up was rdodger contacting me on eBay, find out info, asking questions then reporting back to this forum like a child! If people want to jump to conclusions or provide criticism in a negative way and make accusations I simply have no time for them! Anyone who has words of advise or wants to help (which is what these forums are supposed to do) then I am all ears and very much appreciate it! Anyone else can visit www.facebook.com
This was one for myself a toy for the summer. Even if you were a trader, this is an area of the trade you would need to research on as it is a bit more specialised. Any area a lot of traders I know, know nothing about as its not usually a car they would ever buy too sell.
Ah that's a shame. Did you get upset?
Well frankly I couldn't care less! By your rude and offensive responses you knew something wasn't right. You knew it wasn't a Truimph based Spartan and you knew it wasn't correctly registered.
Now you are found out and find you can't just pass it off as something it isn't, you try to blame me and others.
Well if that makes you feel better then fine.
It's people like you who make it harder for the rest of us who follow the correct procedure and legal process.
Don't feel embarrassed for me. I'm not the one trying to sell a ringer. I'm not stupid enough to buy one that is so clearly is
either.
Perhaps you should be a bit more careful in the future with what you buy and try to sell on.
[Edited on 22/7/13 by rdodger]
Well said, thats the most sensible thing that has left your mouth yet, cannot agree with you more!
The whole registration thing confuses me tbh. You can write whatever name you want on the forms, so if I ended up with amnesia, decided to register my
car (it could happen!) And picked two random words out the dictionary, is there anything to stop me putting the words triumph and spartan on the form,
and would the dvla tell me I can't?
Ok, the tax free thing is really the main issue here, and obviously not done by accident by the original builder, but that aside, surely you could
have a car registered as a ford escort if thats what you really wanted to call it on the forms? Its just a name after all
[Edited on 22/7/13 by blakep82]
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
The whole registration thing confuses me tbh. You can write whatever name you want on the forms, so if I ended up with amnesia, decided to register my car (it could happen!) And picked two random words out the dictionary, is there anything to stop me putting the words triumph and spartan on the form, and would the dvla tell me I can't?
Ok, the tax free thing is really the main issue here, and obviously not done by accident by the original builder, but that aside, surely you could have a car registered as a ford escort if thats what you really wanted to call it on the forms? Its just a name after all
[Edited on 22/7/13 by blakep82]
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
The whole registration thing confuses me tbh. You can write whatever name you want on the forms, so if I ended up with amnesia, decided to register my car (it could happen!) And picked two random words out the dictionary, is there anything to stop me putting the words triumph and spartan on the form, and would the dvla tell me I can't?
Ok, the tax free thing is really the main issue here, and obviously not done by accident by the original builder, but that aside, surely you could have a car registered as a ford escort if thats what you really wanted to call it on the forms? Its just a name after all
[Edited on 22/7/13 by blakep82]
surely it's vosa / dvla who should check that the registered name matches the design of car when applying? But obviously they don't....I
think a grey area could have been uncovered here......
hypothetically......
Assuming I'm a complete novice and buy an incomplete and unfinished kit car (both me and the seller don't know what the kit is). I'm
not familiar with all of the different makes of kits and I don't go on the internet much....
I finish the car and pass the IVA and as I honestly think it's a westfield... that's what I fill in on the forms....
Obviously it's a Q-plate for the car, and it's registered as a westfield....but what happens then if later it's later discovered the
kit is a Robin Hood?
Is it a ringer? technically no because it's the same car that I presented at IVA...
Is it a westfield because that's what it says on the log book......nope because its now obvious its a robin hood
Is it a robin hood.....nope cos the log book says different...
I might have missed something obvious, but is there anything in place to stop you putting the wrong make / model on the forms when registering the
car?
From one who was initially critical of the seller it is clear that the situation has moved on.
We are proud to consider ourselves a helpful and friendly forum with members sharing a common interest. The debate about what is and what is not
correctly registered can and should continue but with specific regard to this new member I think help and advice are now the most appropriate posts.
Electric reverse kits are now well sorted and work acceptably, don't assume they are a cheap bodge.
Personally I would track day the car, have some great fun, tinker with the handling, it will be well quick with the existing engine then sell it and
get most of your money back.
Life is about having fun whilst learning from our mistakes
Cheers
bo55rmc - I think the best thing to do now would be to start a new thread with lots of pics of the oily bits of your car where most people on this
site will be more than happy to help you identify what you've got and the best way to get on the road and 100% legal (as well as the likley costs
involved)
download a copy of the IVA manual here to see whats involved - but don't let the big scary manual put you off - there are lots of folk here who
can give you advice on how to get through it:
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/M1%20IVA%20Inspection%20Manual.pdf
and don't be too put off by the threat of a Q plate - it actually means you only need a visual smoke test at the MOT so its not all bad 
quote:
Originally posted by iank
quote:
Originally posted by Not Anumber
...
I really think some of us need to take a good look at ourselves here. forgot the petty zealous crusades and just make sure their own lives are up to scratch.
I see you haven't really changed your view from this thread http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=182628
Did you read my response? People have lots of good reasons to get upset.
Is that right about smoke test only with bike engine cars?
My kit manufacturer told me we need a cat and a power commander to get our modern bike engine car through iva as the test is made against the year of
engine manufacture. We're talking about IVA here not mot
It'll save me some money if this is wrong
quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
bo55rmc - I think the best thing to do now would be to start a new thread with lots of pics of the oily bits of your car where most people on this site will be more than happy to help you identify what you've got and the best way to get on the road and 100% legal (as well as the likley costs involved)
download a copy of the IVA manual here to see whats involved - but don't let the big scary manual put you off - there are lots of folk here who can give you advice on how to get through it:
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/M1%20IVA%20Inspection%20Manual.pdf
and don't be too put off by the threat of a Q plate - it actually means you only need a visual smoke test at the MOT so its not all bad
The above scenario is interesting as it uses a gradual change to circumnavigate the term radically altered vehicle. I understand the term radically
altered is from as originally built not previous condition so each change is cumulative. A vehicle with different body panels different suspension
different engine and modified chassis would clearly be radically altered. At which point it tipped over is the grey area.
The classic car scene has had this problem for some time. My friend found an engine bolt off a 1930 Bugatti he's hoping to restore it with new
and reconditioned parts and apply for an age related plate.
quote:
Originally posted by SCAR
Is that right about smoke test only with bike engine cars?
My kit manufacturer told me we need a cat and a power commander to get our modern bike engine car through iva as the test is made against the year of engine manufacture. We're talking about IVA here not mot
It'll save me some money if this is wrong
quote:
Originally posted by adithorp
quote:
Originally posted by SCAR
Is that right about smoke test only with bike engine cars?
My kit manufacturer told me we need a cat and a power commander to get our modern bike engine car through iva as the test is made against the year of engine manufacture. We're talking about IVA here not mot
It'll save me some money if this is wrong
No. For IVA, the emmisions test is based on the year of manufacture of the engine. If your engine is post Aug94 it'll be subject to the BETS test limits and need a cat' and Power Commander to meet them. Once registered, if it's assigned a Q plate it'll be vis' smoke only for MOT. If age related or new reg plate is issued then it'll have to meet the same levels as at IVA.
quote:
Originally posted by Norfolkluegojnr
My kit was on a Q plate, and wasn't visible smoke only for MOT.
It depends on the engine its IVA'd with - the emissions are then on the log book (at the top). For example, my car was registered with a CVH engine and had to meet the relevant emissions there after, even when I'd changed it to a zetec.
No, it states the emissions on the V5. This has been covered previously on here. If I still had the car I'd scan it to show you.
EDIT:
Some what inconclusive thread from a little while ago:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=171783
My car definitely had emissions details on the V5, It was irrelevant as the MOT tester did it as smoke only, but it was certainly on there.
[Edited on 22/7/13 by Norfolkluegojnr]
quote:
Originally posted by snakebelly
The Problem is that we all know what's going on here, a kit car newby however could end up spending thousands for a car that is actually illegal and due to ignorance be none the wiser until, god forbid, it gets involved in a accident that involves the insurance company or the old bill.
quote:
Originally posted by Norfolkluegojnr
No, it states the emissions on the V5. This has been covered previously on here. If I still had the car I'd scan it to show you.
EDIT:
Some what inconclusive thread from a little while ago:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=171783
My car definitely had emissions details on the V5, It was irrelevant as the MOT tester did it as smoke only, but it was certainly on there.
quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by Norfolkluegojnr
No, it states the emissions on the V5. This has been covered previously on here. If I still had the car I'd scan it to show you.
EDIT:
Some what inconclusive thread from a little while ago:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=171783
My car definitely had emissions details on the V5, It was irrelevant as the MOT tester did it as smoke only, but it was certainly on there.
Oh yes its there as part of the IVA Approval and registration, (as mentioned above, IVA has different emmision regs to MoT) but any Q plate should be tested for smoke only, regardless of if it has emmisions listed on the v5.
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Originally posted by mcerd1
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Originally posted by loggyboy
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Originally posted by Norfolkluegojnr
No, it states the emissions on the V5. This has been covered previously on here. If I still had the car I'd scan it to show you.
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Some what inconclusive thread from a little while ago:
http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=171783
My car definitely had emissions details on the V5, It was irrelevant as the MOT tester did it as smoke only, but it was certainly on there.
Oh yes its there as part of the IVA Approval and registration, (as mentioned above, IVA has different emmision regs to MoT) but any Q plate should be tested for smoke only, regardless of if it has emmisions listed on the v5.
^^ what he said
the new MOT manual is quite clear - all Q plates are 'visual smoke only'
but the IVA is a different story as its engine age based
2 different departments within VOSA, so of course they have 2 different sets of rules
[Edited on 22/7/2013 by mcerd1]
I'm glad he came to defend himself that's much better than some of the others.
Sorry he got caught out.
Just hope these cars get crushed or iva'd we have all been offered cheap n easy cheats to get a car road legal "ish"
I guess the difference is the ones who do it right or not all all.....
David
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Originally posted by lewis
Just out of interest you bought the car in good faith a few months ago,can you not go after the bloke who sold you the car knowing its not registered correctly? He is the one who has broken the rules & sold it on to you & lied about it.
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Originally posted by jossey
I'm glad he came to defend himself that's much better than some of the others.
Sorry he got caught out.
Just hope these cars get crushed or iva'd we have all been offered cheap n easy cheats to get a car road legal "ish"
I guess the difference is the ones who do it right or not all all.....
David
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Originally posted by britishtrident
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Originally posted by jossey
I'm glad he came to defend himself that's much better than some of the others.
Sorry he got caught out.
Just hope these cars get crushed or iva'd we have all been offered cheap n easy cheats to get a car road legal "ish"
I guess the difference is the ones who do it right or not all all.....
David
But he was trying to catch some other poor sod out !