02GF74
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 05:53 PM |
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blinkin' flip!!! 
oh well, you are uninjured which in the end is what matters.
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Johneturbo
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 06:01 PM |
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Strewth
Glad you both walked away. them metal barriers are nasty.
gona make sure my QR is always properly secured now.
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StevieB
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 06:09 PM |
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Glad you're OK.
If you really want another but can't get it insured yet, why not get the one you want and use it as a trackday car fir a while then get it
insured for road use as/when you can get a decent deal?
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 06:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
Looking at it, I'm not sure that the rollcage played a big part in the action - nothing from the scuttle back is broken or deformed. As stated
above, the front absorbed all the force and dissipated it (fortunately).
The cage and side impact bars probably added a fair bit of rigidity to the cockpit. I guess we will never know but it may have distorted considerably
without them.
[Edited on 24/9/09 by MikeRJ]
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livelee
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 06:45 PM |
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I can confirm they deform massively without a cage.
[Edited on 24/9/09 by livelee]
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chris_smith
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 06:48 PM |
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never wore a tin top but ill certainley be giving it huge consideration now, and a roll cage might well be fitted over winter too
glad you and your mate are ok
The secret of success is to know something nobody else knows."
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 06:48 PM |
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Fair comments about the flying wheel and the added rigidity - whatever it's effect, it's still good that they could get out and walk
away.
Scary though...
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Simon
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 07:15 PM |
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Fortunately you're ok, what I can't understand is the rest of you with "QR's" (whatever they are), are still using
them.
Two of you have had steering come apart, the third might end up not so lucky.
ATB
Simon
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A1
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 07:44 PM |
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Ive been thinking of one for the extra security...not sure though
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richardR1
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 07:54 PM |
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Bl**dy hell, glad you both came out of it relatively unscathed. I too have a QR wheel on mine but it is the original 'Snap-Off' type like
this Snap Off which has a lock and key so is impossible
for it to come off accidentally.
MK Owners Club Member 1015
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miikae
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 08:51 PM |
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Pleased that you managed to get the insurance sorted in the end and to your satisfaction too.
As for QR wheel boss , i had a wee problem with mine due to me being in a hurry to bring the car into the drive after it had been parked on opossite
of the road for a while , went to turn in and on straightening up the wheel just spun but it did not come off , (nearly ran into my house wall) turn
it a bit more and it locked fortunatly as a lorry was approaching at speed ( i live on a main road) i just managed to get clear in time.
So i have had my gypsy's warning and faithfully check it every time now by listerning for the lock to click in.
Mine is the type that you need both hands to pull the back locking ring towards you to release the locking balls.
Mike
If it can be done it i will be done .
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mark chandler
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 09:20 PM |
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That is one lucky escape, I would just be pleased that all my limbs and faculties were intact, and breath a huge sigh of relief.
For myself I choose not to tax and insure my little car this year as the cost offsets a few track days, I would look for something tatty and cheap and
hack it around tracks and trailer it there, £1,200 will get you out once a month in the summer.
You can never drive these near their capabilities on the road, you just end up going to fast, track days rock 
I parked my bike up this year after watching my mate spin down the M20 on his back last year following a visit to the moto GP in Spain, back wheel
locked up and throw him off... it makes you think.
Regards Mark
[Edited on 24/9/09 by mark chandler]
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Dangle_kt
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 09:42 PM |
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Bad news mate, your was well nice too. All the best wth whatever you decide!
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RK
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 10:10 PM |
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Have you thought of a nice road bicycle?
OK, that wasn't called for. I am sure your accident will encourage others to consider full cages though, so it wasn't all for nothing.
That was a bad one, and yet you are both relatively OK. Cars can be replaced.
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Werner Van Loock
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 06:20 AM |
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Blimey, got the same QR boss
note to myself: check very carefully and don't rush
Glad you're ok
http://www.clubstylus.be
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jabbahutt
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 07:06 AM |
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Hells bells you and your mate were damn fortunate, the main thing is you're both okay.
Gutted for your loss of car but at least it can be replaced, you and your friend however couldn't
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 07:47 AM |
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I wouldn't be surprised if that cage at least doubled of not much more the strength of the passenger compartment, I suspect you'd have had
to be cut out of that car had you not had one. Just think of that fatal Westfield crash a short while back.
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Gergely
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 08:32 AM |
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No! That's horrible news. Glad that you are both fine! And that insurance paid. I will check my QR very carefully now... especially as my
insurance would not pay a penny...
Cheer up, you will build or buy another one, I am sure!
Gergely
Our build pictures
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splitrivet
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 09:28 AM |
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Glad to hear you and your buddy are OK that must have been one hell of an arse twitching drive with the wheel coming off in your hands.
As far as QR steering wheels go what is the point. If its a theft deterrent why, our cars must be the least attractive to your average car thief
unless its for strip down and parts in which case they'd just lift the front end and tow it away.
Poseabillity seems the only reason to me but why put something in place which is so vunerable to human error as the case here with such huge
consequences. Talk of the roll cage saving the day are valid but your missing the point it was a bit of unnecessary kit and human error that caused
the accident but without the kit the human error would not have happened.
Cheers,
Bob
I used to be a Werewolf but I'm alright nowwoooooooooooooo
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40inches
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| posted on 25/9/09 at 11:08 AM |
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Can see why a QR wheel is an IVA fail.
Glad you are both OK.
As said buy the car, trackday it untill you can insure it, or, use the trackday fees to pay the insurance now. The way I see it is that I would pay
£23 a week to drive a 7
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:{THC}:YosamiteSam
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| posted on 29/9/09 at 02:47 AM |
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glad you walked away from that mate - after rolling the dax last year twice over and landing on its wheels the first thing i did was fit a cage to the
new car even before i drove it!
the car was written off by hitting a deer in germany
and afterwards all i could think of was if the deer or an object large came over the engine cover towards heads - decapitation would of been
instant..
you seem to have been saved from the wheel by the cage - it did it job - the passenger cell is definitely more survivable with a cage - i cant
understand now why people do not realise just what time bombs they are without one - i used to say the same as people say now - 'why put one on?
- it wont happen to me - naaaaaa never - im a careful driver' - well in truth accidents happen when its beyond your control - next time your out
in any car drive slowly at around 30 - 40 mph - fix on a lamppost or similar and see just how fast it actually does travel towards you.. imagine that
hitting? then think i can afford a cage.. i only get one life - i want to live it - i dont want my kids to have no dad - its just not worth running
around with one of those bars like this
 
car on road
no offence intended but just how vunerable is that?
another point to why quick release steering wheels are used - not all cars have the luxury of getting in with the wheel on! - i certainly cannot get
in with it on - i gotta admit tho i do check it more often now tho
i would get another car - just track day it - couple o years till insurance comes down - mine jumped 25% after the dax was wrote off.. hmmmm just love
insurance companies.. new quote this year is down by £80 from last year.. maybe one or 2 more years to be back to where i was..
buy the car back if you can - mine was a cat B - speak to the assessor directly - get the car back and sell the bits seperately - you will have to
prove the chassis is destroyed tho if you do
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antonio
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| posted on 29/9/09 at 03:46 PM |
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oh putain!
glad you and your mate are ok.
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dhutch
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| posted on 3/10/09 at 07:51 PM |
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Crikey. Yes, those are images to show the children for sure (preferably after a few years driving). What an utter bastard eh. Glad you and your
passenger are safe and well, but a year into ownership myself, i would have been heart broken to be in your shoes.
Re getting a new car. £1200 is an outrageous amount for years cover. But i pay nearly for mine and its only money. Buy a slightly cheaper car even,
put that towards insurence and get back on your wheels. You know you want to!
Daniel
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