designer
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 11:33 AM |
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Why?
I have been on this forum for years and find it very helpful. BUT, it's changing from being about building problems to a general forum about
anything!
I know that's what forums are for; but it seems that many members are asking questions without doing anything before hand.
Many questions such as 'I want this, I need this' are OK, but members seem to be asking question before they do anything else, because
most answers are the obvious; check the suppliers, do a search!
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Benzine
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 11:49 AM |
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In the non-car chat section there are loads of threads about anything and everything. In the other sections, such as 'anything else car
related' there are loads of threads about daily drivers, insurance etc. Seems legit to me.
LCB is as good as it ever was imho, life's too short to worry about a few pearoasts.
I really feel that this thread should be in the Website Discussion, Problems & Suggestions section of the forum.
[Edited on 27-1-2012 by Benzine]
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ChrisLeary
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 12:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by designer
I have been on this forum for years and find it very helpful. BUT, it's changing from being about building problems to a general forum about
anything!
I know that's what forums are for; but it seems that many members are asking questions without doing anything before hand.
Many questions such as 'I want this, I need this' are OK, but members seem to be asking question before they do anything else, because
most answers are the obvious; check the suppliers, do a search!
I've not been a member for too long really, but I think this place is a good source of information, there's so much untrustworthy
information on the internet nowadays, that a google search simply won't answer a quick question. I agree that the majority of information can be
found, but I would much rather ask a question on here and know I'm getting information that is trustworthy and tried and tested, dependant on
the question asked.
I also think that if you don't want to read or answer a certain question someone asks, you don't have to, but if everyone that knew the
answer to a question did that, this forum would be a very boring place, which because people are willing to share information, it isn't!
Just my input to why people ask questions...
Chris
[Edited on 27/1/12 by ChrisLeary]
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scootz
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 12:18 PM |
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Dry your eyes!
This forum has been a success and has subsequently grown (as all good forums do). The general chat and banter on here is just a by-product of
this.
And yes, the 'answer' may be out there for pretty much every question, about pretty much every subject, but the point of this website is
to help each other where we can and to build-up a useful pool of information. Therefore, if the question isn't asked on here (no matter how
'obvious' the answer is to you), then the answer isn't added to the pool. Similarly, repetition does no harm... it simply
re-enforces the point.
Here's another 'why' for you... why does a non-contributor feel the requirement to act as content advisor for the forum?
It's Evolution Baby!
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jabbahutt
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 12:22 PM |
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To be honest I'd rather trust the information provided here on a variety of subjects rather than put my faith on items found on other sites of
which I have no knowledge.
Long may LCB answer all my stupid questions
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loggyboy
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 12:24 PM |
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Agreed with all the above and largely to repeat, but if the content of this site was strictly based around the book and associated Locost car(s) and
any banter that the limited number of members that would generate would mean this site would be fairly dull and no where near as diverse and useful as
it is. Admitidly the same old questions come up, of which 90% could be solved with a site or google search, and half of them from just reading the IVA
or MoT manual, but thats just comes with the territory. People like the reassurance of being told it for themselves.
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jabbahutt
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 12:27 PM |
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agreed with above, hence me laughing out loud in the office 2 minutes ago at the funny headline thread which has appeared this morning. Also now
trying to get the coffee off my work monitor!
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Hellfire
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 12:43 PM |
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What you have to remember though, is that a lot of members of this forum finished building their cars years ago but still hang around this forum.
For me, it's a way of keeping in touch with the network of good friends and acquaintances l've made over the years and also helping other
builders out if I can. As friends, I trust and value their opinions more than any of the other forums I frequent and therefore I am likely to ask more
general questions than build related questions on this forum these days.
What really annoys me on some other forums, is when new members ask questions and are promptly told to do a search as the question has been asked many
times before. I don't mind answering questions that have been asked many times before. For example, the question of 'Which is best, CEC
or BEC?..' has been asked lots of times and I always reply and provide the correct answer.......
Phil
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Irony
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 12:52 PM |
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I agree that some post are car not kitcar related need to be kept in the right section. Thats fine. If you don't want to view non-car related
posts then don't click on them.
What does annoy me is people who title there posts with subjects like 'WHY'. Just to pluck one example out of the air!! Giving me zero
info on what the said link contains. Waste of my time and makes searching for information at a later date difficult as the returned search results
contain posts with no useful info.
[Edited on 27/1/12 by Irony]
[Edited on 27/1/12 by Irony]
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wylliezx9r
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 12:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by designer
I have been on this forum for years and find it very helpful. BUT, it's changing from being about building problems to a general forum about
anything!
I know that's what forums are for; but it seems that many members are asking questions without doing anything before hand.
Many questions such as 'I want this, I need this' are OK, but members seem to be asking question before they do anything else, because
most answers are the obvious; check the suppliers, do a search!
Here's what you should do : simply read the title of the post (without opening it). If then you find you have no interest in the subject, dont
open the thread. Problem solved.
This place would be very boring if all we talked about was cars alone.
I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.
George Best
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Fieldy
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 01:03 PM |
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Who cares what people post, if you’re not interested in the subject then don’t post a response.
If you ask a question about cars it gets answered, that’s the main thing…
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nick205
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 01:06 PM |
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I'm happy here, I like the people, the content, the humour and the resource.
As Hellfire said there's a lot of ex builders on here who still have an interest if not a car (myself included). I enjoy some of the questions
which make me trawl my brain to remember what I did when building my car.
Long live LCB, it's members and diversity 
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lsdweb
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 01:55 PM |
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Great site (the best forum I frequent) and you can always find the answer on here! I've not had a '7' for about 7 years but
I'm on here just as much, if not more these days!
I do tend to skim down the list to see if there's anything of interest to me, so I end up skipping the numerous threads on bolt on / push in
driveshafts for instance!
Wyn
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wilkingj
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 02:05 PM |
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I finished my car 5 years ago. I still post, as there are are always people (including newbies) that want help on a number of subjects that even
include car building! Its also a way of staying in touch with many others whom have become good friends via this forum during my Viento build (most
have finished their cars as well!).
IMHO its not a problem, what people ask, within the boundaries of common decency etc.
AS LONG as its in the right section No Probs.
Even when someone gets it in the wrong section its no big deal.
This is one of the best, most informative and friendliest forums I have come across.
Dont knock it. General rule is simple as is most things in life. If you dont like it, dont reply and move on to the next thread. Failing that, go
eslewhere.
No offence intended to anyone reading this.
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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TimEllershaw
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 02:07 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jabbahutt
To be honest I'd rather trust the information provided here on a variety of subjects rather than put my faith on items found on other sites of
which I have no knowledge.
Long may LCB answer all my stupid questions
+1
It's nice to find a group of like-minded individuals, and I would trust Your (collective) opinions on most subjects. I've not been a
member long (couple of years) and have not buit a car, but have thoroughly enjoyed lurking and learning, and contributing whenever I can.
With the huge breadth of knowledge here it has become an excellent resource and sounding board for just about any subject. I think it is only natural
that as a group learns more about each other, the conversation wanders : that's true on forums and is true is day-to-day life.
Tim.
[Edited on 27/1/2012 by TimEllershaw]
http://www.teenagecancertrust.org/
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JoelP
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 02:11 PM |
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nevermind all that nonsense, its just started snowing in leeds!
Beware! Bourettes is binfectious.
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jabbahutt
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 02:15 PM |
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Car building info aside the diversity of peoples occupations, other hobbies and backgrounds means that the number of subjects which you can get
assistance here is pretty staggering.
A true font of knowledge, just waiting for a subject which I actually know about to have a question posted
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TAZZMAXX
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 02:39 PM |
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On another car forum I'm on we constantly get noobs asking the same old questions and we have the same few people who jump on them and tell them
to do a search. Searching is OK when you half know what it is you're looking for but if you have no clue as to what the answers might be then
asking is the only way. The person asking the questions doesn't realise it gets asked every day. Without questions being asked and if every new
member just searched the forum would stagnate and then people would criticise it saying that there was never anything going on.
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swanny
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 03:04 PM |
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many moons ago i did some research work on these sorts of online communities of practice (communities joined by a common goal)
what the research said then (things may have moved on) was that without off topic stuff these forums fail.
it is that which truly engages people over the long term.
people will log on with a specific request and get an answer but it is the social/interesting stuff that will have them checking back ten times a
day.... oops
a service where you ask a question and a simple answer pops out is a search engine.
an onkine community can genuinely bring people together, whilst doing the above.,
imho
paul
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RK
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 03:19 PM |
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Most people I gather, are not building, or haven't built, a "Locost" as per Uncle Ron, due to IVA and a desire to have something
better looking and reliable than in the past. They have gone for new parts in "kits" available from more and more suppliers over the
years. This makes for more cars on the roads, and happy talkative builders, and - voila!! - more people on the forum. More people equals more ideas.
Even threads like this, which could, perhaps mistakenly, been seen as trolling, are well appreciated by most on here, I think, because, even though it
is pure fantasy, most humans think everyone else wants to hear their opinion.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 04:17 PM |
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Haven't we had this discussion before?
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iank
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 04:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
Haven't we had this discussion before?
Around every 2 years.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 04:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by iank
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
Haven't we had this discussion before?
Around every 2 years.
I'm sure the last one was titled "Why?" too
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blakep82
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 04:57 PM |
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quote:
quote, but reply was deleted
Along these lines perhaps... Designers Last 'Why' Thread Linky!
best bit is if he'd used the search feature, he'd have found the answer without having to ask on here! 
thing is, searching on the forum can be difficult, its just how it is. badly titled threads, bad speeling. it doesn't bother me really, i can
always ask again if needed.
i've tried searching for threads i'd seen before, searched for everything i could think of, and not found it. eventually when i do find
it, its got a title like 'why' which doesn't relate to the actual subject when using the search.
every persons car on here is slightly different in many ways, so if someone asks a question about er, bike carb jet sizes for a 2 ltr and they have a
pinto, and i've got a 2 ltr vauxhall, the answer may well be different. worth asking again. I've also asked a question one day, someone
else asks the same question a few days later, getsa totally different response for a different set of people.
also, if you want to limit the site to locosts, there's actually not many people still building locosts as per the book, the Ron Champion book
to be specific. as a very rough guess, you might end up with a forum with about 15 people on here perhaps, which is next to useless tbh
[Edited on 27/1/12 by blakep82]
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don't write OT on a new thread title, you're creating the topic, everything you write is very much ON topic!
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 27/1/12 at 05:04 PM |
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I think I've seen one person who's declaring that they're building a book 7 on their "building" section over there
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