McLannahan
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RIP Mandela....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-25249520
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slingshot2000
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| posted on 5/12/13 at 10:02 PM |
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+1
RIP !
A giant of a man!
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bi22le
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| posted on 5/12/13 at 10:11 PM |
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Helped the world become what it is today, almost free, almost equal.
A man that will never be forgotten.
Track days ARE the best thing since sliced bread, until I get a supercharger that is!
Please read my ring story:
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Me doing a sub 56sec lap around Brands Indy. I need a geo set up! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHksfvIGB3I
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JoelP
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| posted on 5/12/13 at 10:22 PM |
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Rest in peace.
Beware! Bourettes is binfectious.
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femster87
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| posted on 5/12/13 at 10:35 PM |
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Rest in peace, great guy
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britishtrident
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| posted on 5/12/13 at 10:39 PM |
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A man of great dignity charisma, wisdom ,determination, high principles and courage.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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wylliezx9r
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| posted on 5/12/13 at 10:46 PM |
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RIP
I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.
George Best
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myke pocock
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| posted on 5/12/13 at 10:50 PM |
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A legend in the correct sense of the word.
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Scuzzle
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| posted on 5/12/13 at 10:59 PM |
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Undoubtedly a real catalyst for racial equality in his later moderate years but his early radical years are forgotten totally.
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JacksAvon
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| posted on 5/12/13 at 11:14 PM |
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does it really matter, a big fish in the small pond that is South Africa.
Morally corrupt before him and after him.
Still a toilet
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femster87
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| posted on 5/12/13 at 11:19 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JacksAvon
does it really matter, a big fish in the small pond that is South Africa.
Morally corrupt before him and after him.
Still a toilet
Interesting!!
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craig1410
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| posted on 5/12/13 at 11:32 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
A man of great dignity charisma, wisdom ,determination, high principles and courage.
Agree on all of the above 100% but what I remember most is his infectious smile and soft voice. I was choking up a bit as the news was being read and
I don't mind admitting it. My 17 year daughter was sitting next to me and after hearing the BBC's summary of his achievements, even she
was impressed. Anyone with a teenager will know that doesn't happen every day! A truly great man.
However, I was less than impressed with President Obama's speech. There was something very odd in the tone and delivery. Maybe he was overly
emotional or something but it seemed very odd indeed and not at all what I expected. Did anyone else pick that up or was it just me?
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NigeEss
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| posted on 5/12/13 at 11:53 PM |
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Much good as he did, and I respect him for all of it, he has his dark side.
RIP nontheless.
Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.................Douglas Adams.
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Scuzzle
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| posted on 6/12/13 at 12:05 AM |
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That's how I feel about the man, I respect and admire what he has achieved but there seem to be so many putting him forward as some kind of
saint and I just think he cannot hold this status as he has his share of bodies buried and blood on his hands.
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craig1410
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| posted on 6/12/13 at 12:11 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Scuzzle
That's how I feel about the man, I respect and admire what he has achieved but there seem to be so many putting him forward as some kind of
saint and I just think he cannot hold this status as he has his share of bodies buried and blood on his hands.
“I am not a saint, unless you think of a saint as a sinner who keeps on trying.” : Nelson Mandela
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Ivan
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| posted on 6/12/13 at 07:46 AM |
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He will be sadly missed by all in this country including me - what a pity that many here do not honour his legacy of forgiveness and ubuntu.
A truly great humanist.
RIP Madiba.
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dhutch
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| posted on 6/12/13 at 08:28 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by JacksAvon
does it really matter, a big fish in the small pond that is South Africa.
Morally corrupt before him and after him.
Still a toilet
I think he was driving too fast in an urban area... we dont even know he was the passenger, and...
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ludobenc
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| posted on 6/12/13 at 10:00 AM |
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RIP
http://www.youtube.com/user/LudoBenc
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carpmart
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| posted on 6/12/13 at 11:13 AM |
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Its a difficult one this. I fundamentally am opposed to everything that apartheid stood for. Mandela was clearly an inspirational man and really
helped SA become what it has today. However, he was in the strictest sense of the meaning a terrorist and implicitly involved in terrorist
activities. I find terrorism abhorrent in equal measures to that which I find apartheid. Based on the good he has done, broadly cancelling out the
bad, I guess I am personally fairly ambivalent about Mandela overall.
You only live once - make the most of it!
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Slater
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| posted on 6/12/13 at 11:54 AM |
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A sad sad day, he's achieved alot in this country and is an insiration around the world. I just wish he was in power for longer.
We have been given the afternoon off work, so we can pay our respects.
Why do they call Port Harcourt "The Garden City"?...... Becauase they can't spell Stramash.
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ken555
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| posted on 6/12/13 at 08:09 PM |
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Am I the only one fed up hearing the platitudes toward Nelson Madela?
Reporters stating how he gave up 27 years of his life for the struggle against apartheid, no he was imprisoned for his part in killing over 100
people. Also, he was offered freedom if he denounced violence and terrorism, which he declined to do.
In my opinion his action are no better than those of McGuinness and Adams.
Yes he was a great statesman, but before that he was a murdering b*****d
[Edited on 6-12-13 by ken555]
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Rod Ends
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 posted on 6/12/13 at 08:35 PM |
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The New South Africa - The Next Zimbabwe
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femster87
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| posted on 6/12/13 at 09:29 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ken555
Am I the only one fed up hearing the platitudes toward Nelson Madela?
Reporters stating how he gave up 27 years of his life for the struggle against apartheid, no he was imprisoned for his part in killing over 100
people. Also, he was offered freedom if he denounced violence and terrorism, which he declined to do.
In my opinion his action are no better than those of McGuinness and Adams.
Yes he was a great statesman, but before that he was a murdering b*****d
[Edited on 6-12-13 by ken555]
As a young black african man, I do not share your sentiments at all. We have people like him to thank for our developed tolerance of each other. Would
I have used his tactics? I do not know, oppression does strange thinks to humans
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ken555
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| posted on 6/12/13 at 11:29 PM |
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He was a terrorist.
Remember, the difference between "freedom fighter" and "terrorists" is purely in the eye of the beholder.
He just happened to be a terrorist who was on the right side of the fight.
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shindha
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| posted on 7/12/13 at 08:58 AM |
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Terrorism isn't that some one person or a group of people trying to impose their will on another group using force and the threat of force. So
could that mean the state was trying to treat people unequally and imposing this will by using force.
Does that not make the state a terrorist?
Does that mean the people fighting the Taliban are terrorists?
Mandela fought against a state that was treating its people unfairly, using violent and peaceful means as necessary, and to the native people of South
Africa he made a very big positive difference.
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