Miks15
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| posted on 12/2/10 at 08:46 PM |
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track rod ends reducing bush
I have a slight problem with regards to my track rod ends. Basically im using BMW E46 front uprights, and an escort mk2 rack.
Now the BMW track rod ends dont fit my rack, and the escort tapers are to small for uprights.
Can i make some sort of spacer to go between the 2 so that i can use escort TRE's with my uprights?
It will basically just be hollow cone witht he top chopped off.
Thanks
Mikkel
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James
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| posted on 12/2/10 at 08:57 PM |
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Although I'm sure it's possible, I cant imagine it's very easy to turn up a cone!
I would have said an adapter to go between Escort track rod and the BMW balljoint would be the best way- and there's plenty of precedent as
it's what people with Escort racks on Sierra track cars use!
HTH,
James
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Miks15
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| posted on 12/2/10 at 09:00 PM |
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Yeh that was my initial thought, but the problem is the BMW track rod end is a very long peice. So there is no room between it and the escort rack.
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Miks15
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| posted on 12/2/10 at 10:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
quote:
Originally posted by James
Although I'm sure it's possible, I cant imagine it's very easy to turn up a cone!
I would have said an adapter to go between Escort track rod and the BMW balljoint would be the best way- and there's plenty of precedent as
it's what people with Escort racks on Sierra track cars use!
HTH,
James
Escort MK2 and Sierra track rods have the same tapers and threads.
I think what he meant was that they use the extension so that the sierra width car can use the escort rack
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boggle
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| posted on 12/2/10 at 11:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by James
Although I'm sure it's possible, I cant imagine it's very easy to turn up a cone!
I would have said an adapter to go between Escort track rod and the BMW balljoint would be the best way- and there's plenty of precedent as
it's what people with Escort racks on Sierra track cars use!
HTH,
James
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Miks15
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| posted on 13/2/10 at 09:39 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by boggle
quote:
Originally posted by James
Although I'm sure it's possible, I cant imagine it's very easy to turn up a cone!
I would have said an adapter to go between Escort track rod and the BMW balljoint would be the best way- and there's plenty of precedent as
it's what people with Escort racks on Sierra track cars use!
HTH,
James
Are you saying it can be done then?
compound slide....internal and external taper....
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 13/2/10 at 10:15 AM |
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I had the same issue with my jag hubs and pug 309 rack. The lucky thing with mine is that the taper is just enough if i tighten them right up (they
still have a little thread sticking out from under the locknut).
Does IVA allow modified steering arms? If so, would you be able to weld an outer section of the BMW arms to the escort ones?
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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Miks15
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| posted on 13/2/10 at 11:09 AM |
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Originally posted by speedyxjs
I had the same issue with my jag hubs and pug 309 rack. The lucky thing with mine is that the taper is just enough if i tighten them right up (they
still have a little thread sticking out from under the locknut).
Does IVA allow modified steering arms? If so, would you be able to weld an outer section of the BMW arms to the escort ones?
That was another thought i had, Chopping the BMW ends off and welding on the right threaded part to fit the rack, But im worried about quality of the
weld if the the ends are cast.
IVA man probably wouldnt see it anyway because it would be wrapped up anyway for radius's etc so he wouldnt know, but if i can make it strong
enough it might work
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 13/2/10 at 12:47 PM |
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Welded steering is likely to be an IVA and an MOT failure
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Brommers
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| posted on 13/2/10 at 03:49 PM |
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Originally posted by Miks15
Yeh that was my initial thought, but the problem is the BMW track rod end is a very long peice. So there is no room between it and the escort rack.
Then chop down the Escort track rod, and re-thread it either to take an adaptor plus the BMW TRE or just the BMW TRE directly. Job done.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 13/2/10 at 06:36 PM |
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Originally posted by Brommers
Then chop down the Escort track rod, and re-thread it either to take an adaptor plus the BMW TRE or just the BMW TRE directly. Job done.
The threads are rolled into the escort track rods, so you can't cut new threads of the same size as the diameter of the rod is too small. I
wouldn't expect the BWM threads to be any smaller diameter than Escort ones either.
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Brommers
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| posted on 13/2/10 at 07:08 PM |
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Sure, if that's the case you'd need to make up an adaptor. OTOH, I've no idea what size the threads actually are on a BMW -
it's possible they'll be smaller, albeit unlikely I accept.
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Doug68
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| posted on 14/2/10 at 11:18 AM |
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Originally posted by MikeRJ
The threads are rolled into the escort track rods, so you can't cut new threads of the same size as the diameter of the rod is too small. I
wouldn't expect the BWM threads to be any smaller diameter than Escort ones either.
That may be the case with the OEM ones but clearly on my Rally Des one they've been cut not rolled.
Clearly some adapters is what needs to be made to fix the issue though.
[Edited on 14/2/10 by Doug68]
Doug. 1TG
Sports Car Builders WA
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prawnabie
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| posted on 14/2/10 at 11:21 AM |
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Yeah on my rack the rod is the same thickness as the threads.
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 14/2/10 at 05:33 PM |
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Best bet would be to find some track rod ends with the correct taper to suit the steering arm and thread to suit the Escort rack. Try your local motor
factors.
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Miks15
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| posted on 14/2/10 at 05:37 PM |
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Ive already looked al over the place to find something suitable, but unsuccesfully.
Next time im home i will try measuring up to see if i can use some form of adaptorto use the BMW TRE's
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