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Author: Subject: Mid Engined Space frame Imp stiletto Project..
Benzo

posted on 21/3/13 at 02:35 PM Reply With Quote
Mid Engined Space frame Imp stiletto Project..

Took a mad notion and bought this box of bits..

Its based on a March F3 Chassis clad in Stiletto/ imp bodywork... it originally had a BDA in it, but then later was converted to 1600 8v Vauxhall..

It needs ALOT of sorted, it will be a long term project as im TR8 & Race Megablade are taking up alot of time and Space at the moment.

Dont want to go bike engined for this project, im thinking s2000 or 2L Redtop tuned mated to the MK9 Hewland? try and keep it under 500kgs.

Anyway some pics - its in a sorry state!











And how it used to look -







This is a LONG term project for me, until then it will be Garage Furniture!

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ceebmoj

posted on 21/3/13 at 02:45 PM Reply With Quote
looks nice
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Benzo

posted on 21/3/13 at 02:48 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by ceebmoj
looks nice


Seen any similar projects? Ideas of how to source 250hp without spending a fortune?

Whats the opinion on the s2000 unit?

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Jenko

posted on 21/3/13 at 03:44 PM Reply With Quote
Very, very nice.........

How about a subaru power?.....Looks like a nice flat 4 would sit nicely in that chassis. Other options that spring to mind would be a ford cosworth v6 from a Granada, or (depending on the weight) a busa.





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Benzo

posted on 21/3/13 at 04:21 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jenko
Very, very nice.........

How about a subaru power?.....Looks like a nice flat 4 would sit nicely in that chassis. Other options that spring to mind would be a ford cosworth v6 from a Granada, or (depending on the weight) a busa.


I would rather stay NA, and under 2L.. Or else bike engine up to 1300..

How much do those Radical style chain driven diffs go for?

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CNHSS1

posted on 21/3/13 at 04:37 PM Reply With Quote
theres been at least 2 or 3 similar Imps running last year in the CSCC Special Saloons championship. Martyn Baker was running a black one and there was a red one regularly out, both used imp-based engines iirc.

there were a few that ran on sprints and hills, all ex Modsports, a few of which used bike power.

contact CSCC special saloons co-ordinator and im sure they will put you in touch, or try Uphillracers forum or the Ten-Tenths forums. In fact, i'll bet someone on ten tenths will know the car, lots of exWendy Wools and Modpsorts/Silhouettes guys on there

or sell it me cheap always loved Modsports cars





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CNHSS1

posted on 21/3/13 at 04:49 PM Reply With Quote
if you want to read up, google Macquire Imps as they built laods 'back in the day' also Davrian too





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Benzo

posted on 21/3/13 at 04:53 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by CNHSS1
if you want to read up, google Macquire Imps as they built laods 'back in the day' also Davrian too


Ill have a look on ten-tenths!

I know quite abit about them because my old man used to run a Bevan engined Rawlson based car in the 70's.

I tried to buy a Maguire recently but it would have ended up being garage furniture.

There are lots of Maguires here in Ireland & Davrians here in Ireland..

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T66

posted on 21/3/13 at 05:44 PM Reply With Quote
Gets my vote, that had to be bought.






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andylancaster3000

posted on 21/3/13 at 05:45 PM Reply With Quote
Don't think Mk8/9 hewlands are particularly happy at those power/torque figures. Might be worth some investigation. Not sure how much stronger the F3 variant is but might be worth considering (5-speed, MK5)
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CNHSS1

posted on 21/3/13 at 05:47 PM Reply With Quote
ah, of course, Ireland has got more than its fair share!

have a look on ten-tenths under the chassis section, some of the trails of cars aon there are amazing, todays barn find, tomorrow you are in touch with 10 previous owners and pics galore! really fascinating although a great way to lose 3-4 hours if you arent careful lol.

There used to be an Imp engined club that ran a series on hills sprints over here, and that had rawlsons, macquires etc al along with Clans and other stuff too.

i think i recognise that color scheme from Racecarsdirect 4-5 years ago, although there was an all black one that either went to ireland or was in ireland, cant remember.

will see if i can find some pics on the hard drive

post up pics as you get into it, cracking car





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CNHSS1

posted on 21/3/13 at 05:54 PM Reply With Quote
pics of cars at CSCC last year

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40940504@N06/6101141422

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37020752@N06/6099248243

wrigley engineering imp behind (green/white/black)





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Benzo

posted on 21/3/13 at 05:56 PM Reply With Quote
That would most likely be les Campbell's maguire with the Fireblade engine in the back?

It went to a guy I know, mark steed.. It's since gone to guernsey he was telling me on Saturday!

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andylancaster3000

posted on 21/3/13 at 05:57 PM Reply With Quote
Horsepower Capacities of MK
type gearboxes
MK4-7 120 HP
MK5 (Limited by output stub axle
strength) 160 HP
MK8/MK9 (if using earlier
gearsets) 120 HP
MK8/MK9 (If using “M” type MK
gearsets) 180 HP
MK8/MK9 (if using “M” type MK5
gearsets 240 HP
and Quaife or Salisbury
Differential)

From this source: http://www.taylor-race.com/pdf/ACF14E2.pdf

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CNHSS1

posted on 21/3/13 at 05:59 PM Reply With Quote
also here

http://specialsaloons.proboards.com/board/17/cars

Channel isles do like there silly hillclimb cars





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Benzo

posted on 21/3/13 at 06:02 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by andylancaster3000
Horsepower Capacities of MK
type gearboxes
MK4-7 120 HP
MK5 (Limited by output stub axle
strength) 160 HP
MK8/MK9 (if using earlier
gearsets) 120 HP
MK8/MK9 (If using “M” type MK
gearsets) 180 HP
MK8/MK9 (if using “M” type MK5
gearsets 240 HP
and Quaife or Salisbury
Differential)

From this source: http://www.taylor-race.com/pdf/ACF14E2.pdf


Thank you that's a good reference!

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Benzo

posted on 21/3/13 at 06:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CNHSS1
also here

http://specialsaloons.proboards.com/board/17/cars

Channel isles do like there silly hillclimb cars


I couldn't believe it the 1st time I set eyes on a converted sand racers!

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ludsonline

posted on 21/3/13 at 06:16 PM Reply With Quote
Have a look here ..

http://forum.theimpclub.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14171

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Benzo

posted on 21/3/13 at 06:23 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ludsonline
Have a look here ..

http://forum.theimpclub.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14171

[Edited on 21/3/13 by ludsonline]


Posted there already, thank you

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imp paul

posted on 21/3/13 at 06:40 PM Reply With Quote
it looks nice mate im building a rawlson z imp at the moment welcome to the world of mad imps
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Benzo

posted on 21/3/13 at 06:43 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by imp paul
it looks nice mate im building a rawlson z imp at the moment welcome to the world of mad imps


Oh I would like a look at that! What are you planning to do with the car?

Links to any pics? Is the the blue one I've seen pics of?

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imp paul

posted on 21/3/13 at 06:48 PM Reply With Quote
yes my blue 1 is stripped to the bone mate check my album out
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Benzo

posted on 21/3/13 at 06:50 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by imp paul
yes my blue 1 is stripped to the bone mate check my album out


I'll have a look, are you going to race it or use it as a road car?

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imp paul

posted on 21/3/13 at 06:55 PM Reply With Quote
bit of both mate, i have had fast imps since i was 18 and now 41 lol , but this is packing lots of power zx12r turbo so it will kill me haha, its just a lot of work mate
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Benzo

posted on 21/3/13 at 07:06 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by imp paul
bit of both mate, i have had fast imps since i was 18 and now 41 lol , but this is packing lots of power zx12r turbo so it will kill me haha, its just a lot of work mate


have you a class in mind for the racing? doesnt the turbo throw you into a different class?

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