Howlor
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 12:13 PM |
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Ford 2.5 or Jag 3.0?
Morning All,
I am currently looking at a RWD project that I want a V6 in. I am looking for about 250hp when finished and I want it be responsive.
I am tempted to go down the route of the Jag 3L variant rather than the Ford 2.5, what do other people think? I would be looking to ditch the
induction side and replace with TB's and Megasquirt.
Are there any good websites for these engines? Tuning parts etc?
Thanks,
Steve
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 01:00 PM |
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Definitely go for the larger engine, it won't be cheap to get 250 bhp from the 2.5L Duratec.
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ashg
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 01:45 PM |
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fit an alfa 3.0 v6 they can make 250bhp easily
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Howlor
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 01:50 PM |
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Ash, what needs to be done to the Alfa engine to make that kind of power?
As long as I can bolt it up to a RWD configuration then I am open to suggestions.
Thanks,
Steve
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RazMan
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 02:15 PM |
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The Ford Duratec V6 is available in 2.5 & 3.0 versions and either one will give you over 200bhp with simple mods. If you ditch the standard ecu,
stick on a decent exhaust (getting rid of the cats) and a reasonable air filter even the smaller ST200 engine will give closer to 220bhp. They are not
easy to tune any further however, which is why I have developed some ITBs which should push a little closer towards your 250bhp.
Parts are getting much cheaper and plentiful and you can often find complete engines for a few hundred including gearbox, although the ST220 version
is still quite rare.
They are ideal for a Middy, being very light (for a V6) with bags of torque and a nice sound too 
[Edited on 10-1-11 by RazMan]
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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rodgling
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 03:16 PM |
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Straight 6, not a v6, but how about an E36 328? Very cheap, lightweight alloy block, tunable to about 250 bhp with remap / induction / cams.
I've got one in mine (untuned at the moment, so around 200 bhp) and it's pretty nippy already. Plus it makes an awesome noise.
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interestedparty
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 04:18 PM |
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The Jaguar gets 240bhp in the standard installation, and if you get the S type variation then it is already longitudinal RWD, and has a 5 speed
gearbox. Can't think why anyone would even look at the Ford version.
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pdm
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 04:27 PM |
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^ I agree 240 bhp and all set up with RWD gearbox and correct sump. - although the only thing with the gears is they seem quite long so getting a
whole s-type drivetrain might be a good idea as the diff is a 4. something with the manual I think.....
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 10/1/11 at 04:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by interestedparty
The Jaguar gets 240bhp in the standard installation, and if you get the S type variation then it is already longitudinal RWD, and has a 5 speed
gearbox. Can't think why anyone would even look at the Ford version.
Exactly. The Ford powertrain would be useful in a transverse application i.e. middy, but it seems daft going to the lengths of adapting it to RWD
when a solution exists.
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johnH20
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| posted on 11/1/11 at 04:25 PM |
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If I remember rightly the Jag version runs VCT which might be beyond the capabilities of Megasquirt if that is your intention.
Don't know much about Megasquirt so just a heads up.
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 11/1/11 at 04:32 PM |
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Does it have to be a V6? Jag V8's are same price if not cheaper than the V6's. Only down side would be finding a manual box if thats what
your after.
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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