Deckman001
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| posted on 8/3/05 at 09:12 PM |
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Cortina Alloy Hubs, Any Wanted ???Prices now finalised!!
I'm thinking of getting some Alloy hubs made at the local CNC shop to 'Rally' spec and design, This should see a weight reduction of
about 1Kg per hub !! would there be any demand by other cortina upright users for this type of product ???
Jason
By 'Rally' spec i mean type of Alloy, not size of bearings used, my hubs will use std bearings so will be a straight swap
Cost is heading for under £50 per Bare Hub 
Costs are £47.50(Hub)Each + £11.00(Timken Bearing)Each fitted
P&P £10 per set for mainland UK
IF PAYING BY PAYPAL PLEASE ADD 3% TO COVER THEIR HANLING CHARGES
 
Ally Cortina Hub pic 01
[Edited on 15/2/06 by Deckman001]
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Surrey Dave
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| posted on 8/3/05 at 09:14 PM |
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It would be good if they where considerably less than here;
http://www.icondevs.co.uk/
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Deckman001
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| posted on 8/3/05 at 09:16 PM |
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Price would depend on demand !!!
Jason
but yes, they would be cheaper
[Edited on 8/3/05 by Deckman001]
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paulf
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| posted on 8/3/05 at 09:44 PM |
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I would be interested in a price, I have a spare set of uprights witth no hubs, so could be handy.
Paul.
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Avoneer
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| posted on 8/3/05 at 10:01 PM |
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I'd be interested if they use the standard bearings.
Pat...
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Deckman001
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| posted on 8/3/05 at 10:03 PM |
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They are being designed to use std bearings, so will be a straight swap
Jason
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Fozzie
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| posted on 8/3/05 at 10:19 PM |
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A Definate interest Jason!
Fozzie
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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Avoneer
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| posted on 8/3/05 at 10:38 PM |
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So a pair for under a tonne?????
Pat...
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Deckman001
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| posted on 9/3/05 at 07:18 AM |
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It's looking that way at the moment,,, but i can't give a final cost until i know roughly how many people might want a set.
Jason
[Edited on 4/1/06 by Deckman001]
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scutter
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| posted on 9/3/05 at 07:24 AM |
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Jason, put me down for a set.
Many thanks Dan.
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Northy
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| posted on 9/3/05 at 08:01 AM |
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I'm interested
Graham
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NS Dev
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| posted on 9/3/05 at 08:15 AM |
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I thought the rally design ones used std bearings?
They do several types, the escort ones, (RD 199) of which they do three types, one std bearing std studs, one big bearing std studs and one big
bearing, gp4 studs, and then they also do a cortina one for the hot rod racers, part no RD752.
I assumed the cortina one took std cortina bearings, although I know the escort Gp4 ones use a bigger bearing, as the old ford Gp4 escorts did.
They are all £58.50 + vat.
[Edited on 9/3/05 by NS Dev]
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Deckman001
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| posted on 9/3/05 at 08:47 AM |
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I hope to get the prices sorted by the end of the week,, But it WILL be less than £50 each or I ain't gunna get the cnc shop to make them !!!
Jason
This topic is really just to find out if there is a demand for the hubs, it will also be a limited manufacture run due to the cost of making the
things, and I don't want to hold a stock of them either 
I might look at the Sierra based hubs next though
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ned
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| posted on 9/3/05 at 10:44 AM |
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Jason,
Sorry bit late, defo have a set off you for the ballpark prices mentioned above
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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Northy
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| posted on 9/3/05 at 01:03 PM |
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Any chance of getting them anodised?
Graham
Website under construction. Help greatfully received as I don't really know what I'm doing!
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Built 2L 8 Valve Vx Powered Avon
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Avoneer
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| posted on 9/3/05 at 01:08 PM |
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IIRC, the Mk2 Escort hubs, although will fit, are slightly shorter in length.
Pat...
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NS Dev
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| posted on 9/3/05 at 01:10 PM |
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Speaking personally, I would doubt the demand for Sierra hubs, simply because the Sierra Hub is so small anyway and weigh so little compared to the
upright itself.
Come to that, what is the weight saving with the cortina one? The cortina bare hub weighs very little, the brake caliper and disc are by far the
heaviest parts of the assembly. I did weigh them but have now lost the paper that I wrote the weights on. You certainly want alloy calipers and alloy
bells on your brake discs before you worry about the hubs, as thse are very small and pretty light anyway.
I would still like some, but I can't afford to at the mo as I need to find £300 for a pair of brake calipers and some discs!
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pk
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| posted on 9/3/05 at 01:26 PM |
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Cortina Alloy Hubs
Add my name to the list, they were on the plan, just down the list a bit!!
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Deckman001
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| posted on 9/3/05 at 02:06 PM |
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I just weighed the hub i have here and it's 5.5LB that's just over 2Kg, an Alloy one should be about half the weight , saving about 1Kg
per hub.
Am seeing the cnc shop tomorrow and will tie them down to some costs ! Depending on the cost, I will get a set make for testing, then get the rest
made.
Jason
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Deckman001
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| posted on 9/3/05 at 02:09 PM |
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Northy, yes but the cost to get one set done would be quite expensive i think, saying that i was shown some sample anodising in red, blue, black and
green i think, so will enquire tomorrow
Jason
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Deckman001
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 08:26 AM |
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Costs to be finalised after the first one is made i'm getting a sample made to assess, then a set for testing, due to the sample being done
'free' they are doing it as and when they can so it will be made in the next couple of weeks
Seeing as Caterham sell them for £94 each and Westfield sell them for £187 a pair, I'm sure you will all like the price when it is finalised
Jason
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Surrey Dave
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 09:49 AM |
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When I spoke to Icondevs about the hubs they said that because of the expansion differences between ally and steel the bearings where a very tight
fit , which meant that the bearings had to be cooled and the hubs warmed in an oven to fit them easily, this was to stop the bearings being loose when
the hub warmed up in normal use, will your engineers take that into account?
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NS Dev
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 10:19 AM |
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That sounds right, yes. The alloy will tend to get "hammered" by the bearing outer race as it rotates and then allow the outer race to
"walk" around in the hub.
So yes, the race will probably want to be a shrink fit or good press fit.
Haing said that, I havent done it so I don't know!
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Kissy
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 10:34 AM |
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I think the hammering/walking action is called brinnelling, but I stand to be corrected (both technically and with my spelling!)
More importantly I'm up for a pair!
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MikeR
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| posted on 11/3/05 at 10:50 AM |
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that rings as bell with the westfield hubs - because of this the bearings are a very tight fit.
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