stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 27/2/03 at 10:55 PM |
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TOL is now a dictatorship
In case no one has noticed, Mr James Hughes is now approving every new member and EVERY POST.
Try sending something to TOL and see how long it takes to reach the list.
It will be tomorrow morning when James gets to work and spends his day running TOL from a company account.
Rather than admit that he has efectively banned Con and me, he introduces extreme censorship.
As an adult, i can cope with ignoring stuff from Con. James cant.
TOL now seems to be the sole moderators pet project.
Its interesting to note that although I called most of the group 'total F&^king idiots' due to the fight that broke out over con, not ONE person
called me out on the list OR in an email. Just James.
I think that shows I was wrong - 1499 people are not idiots - they understood what I meant.
Come on james. Make it a round 1500 that understand by making TOL a free group.
atb
steve
posted to tol also.....bets on it appearing......
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 28/2/03 at 06:55 AM |
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not worth the effort, this is the place to be............
you can take the pi55, within reason
you can have a farrrrrrf
BUT you allways get the info you want, then its up to the individual wether he takes it in or not....
live n let live locostbuilders style.......
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 28/2/03 at 06:56 AM |
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oh, and as for 1500 members, how many are active ????
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 28/2/03 at 07:35 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Ison
oh, and as for 1500 members, how many are active ????
i have tried to make the point for younks that its prob less than 200 or so.....but they like big numbers!
when our members list was active it looked like out of 500 about 100 were truly active.
I think its all relative.
atb
steve
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fastenuff
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| posted on 28/2/03 at 07:37 PM |
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wel count me out on that so at most 1498, got in for the files in the begining but don't like the set up, to dull looks like cheap prints with
xpensive ads.
Ingmar
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Findlay234
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| posted on 28/2/03 at 07:46 PM |
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i saw the big clash on there, i stayed silent and just watched and chuckled as events rolled out. i find it more amusing that it was con himself that
was the centre of the toubles, when he started here there was a bit of unrest but i think we all get along now. hes even joining in on other threads.
when will they get the idea that you cant show true emotions on the net........ some guys............... James Hughes ................... reckon youre
being serious when youre only avin a larf. has there ever been a case when the moderator himself gets thrown off?????? a couple on this forum would
enjoy that(those who were thrown off TOL)...........
cheers
fin
ps. the 'total F&^king idiots' comment...... someone had to say it. glad it was someone from this forum.
[Edited on 28/2/03 by Findlay234]
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auzziejim
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| posted on 1/3/03 at 10:42 PM |
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TOL
hey stephen do you find it at all funny that there have been no posts on the forum today. guesses on James not working on a Saturday?
James
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kingr
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| posted on 2/3/03 at 12:12 AM |
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One thing that has occured to me, why isn't there a locost newsgroup (or is there?). It seems like the ideal thing: accessible through custom
readers, on the net, or to your email, there's no moderation, no stupid adverts and no work load to maintain it.
Kingr
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 2/3/03 at 12:48 AM |
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James has heavily moderated - or censored the group for the last 2 days.
I have sent 3 posts, and he hasnt allowed them and 2 of them were ordinary answers.
The other one was an exact copy of the first one in this thread. he isnt man enougth to let things sort themselves out.
my view is that there should be NO moderation. It works here. Situations like Considerably just fix themselves. If there are moderators you either
have other peoples wills bein imposed, or other people trying to get other people to enforcem their will by proxy.
if you get what I mean.
At the moment James is killing the group all by himself.
post a question - get an answer 2 dyas later after its passed 2 stages of moderating.
James is putting himself in a dangerous position. Moderating a group from work, where I come from, would likely be a dismissal offence on the grounds
of using company internet and not working - ie running a group when he should be.
atb
steve
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 2/3/03 at 08:49 AM |
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its been so long since i went on TOL ive forgotten the addy,anyone want to post it so i can have a larf this afternoon
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 2/3/03 at 12:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by theconrodkid
its been so long since i went on TOL ive forgotten the addy,anyone want to post it so i can have a larf this afternoon
http:/groups.yahoo.com/group/locost
as well as heavily moderatingthe group, the only post james has let though in the last 24 hrs is one which appears to be SPAM advertising a phone card
in the usa!!!!
James has lost it.
atb
steve
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ChrisW
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| posted on 2/3/03 at 12:51 PM |
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Don't know why they need moderators really. I think in the history of this group I've had to 'have a word' once. Most problems just sort
themselves out once people realise someone is on a windup. The Considerably thing was quite amusing in the end - I'm almost sad to see him go.
At the end of the day, as has been said before, this site is about socialising with other like minded people. If we can't have a laugh then what's
the point? Think of it as like being down a very big pub...
Chris
My gaff my rules
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Alan B
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| posted on 2/3/03 at 01:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisW
Think of it as like being down a very big pub...
Chris
Right, well quit yapping and get to the bar...
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ChrisW
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| posted on 2/3/03 at 01:52 PM |
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I heard it was your round Alan? Stop trying to get out of it!
Chris
My gaff my rules
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 2/3/03 at 02:36 PM |
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Once the con thing got out of hand I left the group - no fuss, just opted out.
I wasn't getting anything out of it anyway...
Don't miss it, either... which is sad, as it helped me through a few problems in the past (and I hope I've done the same for others since)
So, here I am, stuck here in LocostBuilders!!!
Bad luck, chaps!
rgds,
David
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ChrisW
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| posted on 2/3/03 at 02:49 PM |
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Good to have you here David. Take a seat - Alan's getting the beers in!
Chris
My gaff my rules
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 2/3/03 at 03:29 PM |
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ill have some beef crisps with mine
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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theconrodkid
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| posted on 2/3/03 at 04:06 PM |
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just had a look ,reminds me of little old ladies eating cake,drinking tea and discussing knitting patterns
who cares who wins
pass the pork pies
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johnston
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| posted on 2/3/03 at 08:23 PM |
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i signed up read it once and thought wat a load of shite discovered this one thought it was the dogs balls
went back the other day to see the fuss bout con thought it was real funny although i think stevie g is the only one left wit any coomon sense
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 2/3/03 at 10:17 PM |
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thanks for that jonhson....just shows what they have become 
If you go back to pre dec2001 it was in many ways not unlike this group.
It was a laff as well as a tech resource.
then it got all anal. As of 10.14pm sunday, there has been one post today. If you want to know how to get cheap long distance in the usa, get there
right away.
why dont we have useful stuff like that. We must thank james for going out of his way to let that one through for the car building public today
Last weekend there were 84 posts (i think 80 were con related!) and this weekend there are FIVE?
atb
steve
[Edited on 2/3/03 by stephen_gusterson]
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Ian Pearson
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| posted on 3/3/03 at 08:36 AM |
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TOL was instrumental in getting me started on my build, it was a huge source of info, and it's a shame that it went the way it did. I think this list
is great, there is far more banter and it can sometimes take a little more time to find an answer to a question than TOL before it's demise, but
that's no big deal. This list is amusing as well as informative.
Steve, I'll stick my head above the parapet and say that while I totally agree with most of what has been said re: TOL, I thought your post,
especially the title was totally unecessary. I did think of e-mailing you but thought better of it.
Silence does not always equal agreement with your point of view.
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 3/3/03 at 10:21 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian Pearson
TOL was instrumental in getting me started on my build, it was a huge source of info, and it's a shame that it went the way it did. I think this list
is great, there is far more banter and it can sometimes take a little more time to find an answer to a question than TOL before it's demise, but
that's no big deal. This list is amusing as well as informative.
Steve, I'll stick my head above the parapet and say that while I totally agree with most of what has been said re: TOL, I thought your post,
especially the title was totally unecessary. I did think of e-mailing you but thought better of it.
Silence does not always equal agreement with your point of view.
True Ian.
If you dont agree with me, I dont have a problem with you telling me so. To be honest, that now makes two people one of whom mailed me direct. Still
1498 silent voices tho.
In the time I have been on TOL, for right and wrong, I myself have been personally attacked a few times. If the one and only time I felt like saying
what I really felt last week came out as it did, then I should have been more expressive over those two years.
However, even the calling card spam attracted personal abuse to the person that posted it.
And there is something ost stange going on - all the posts were moderated - the yahoo list said that when you posted something.........now I find that
the title post from this thread has been posted on there four days late.....
there has been extreme moderating going on, now it stops, and only one of my posts gets on ther of the three I sent ....... and its the controversial
one. Now, being the suspicious sort, I wonder why that is...........
If I offended you, sorry - but I cant change my opinion to suit.
atb
Steve
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Ian Pearson
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| posted on 4/3/03 at 09:44 AM |
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Hey Steve,
No offense at all, these lists exist because we all have opinions!
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 4/3/03 at 07:04 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian Pearson
Hey Steve,
No offense at all, these lists exist because we all have opinions!
yeah. I try very carefully not to express mine
atb steve
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Jon Ison
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| posted on 4/3/03 at 07:56 PM |
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subject closed ?????
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