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Ben_Copeland

posted on 16/9/09 at 06:19 AM Reply With Quote
Ah bloody hell Jasper, that's really crap.

Hope you get everything sorted.

Made me think twice about plumbed in systems now.





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welderman

posted on 16/9/09 at 06:41 AM Reply With Quote
At Least you're ok.
Bad news though about the car, Orange





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Jasper

posted on 16/9/09 at 06:44 AM Reply With Quote
Cheers chaps, going up to see it in a minute and get the insurance to call the recovery truck, might be able to get a few bits off it first if the pikies haven't already taken it all away...

Plumbed in fire extinguisher was on my upgrades list .....

Oh well, end of the day it was only a 'thing', and I've never been one for getting attached to stuff anyway.





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DavidW

posted on 16/9/09 at 06:52 AM Reply With Quote
Really sorry to read this.

I hope the insurance claim is smooth.

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Mr Whippy

posted on 16/9/09 at 06:56 AM Reply With Quote






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02GF74

posted on 16/9/09 at 07:01 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jasper

Oh well, end of the day it was only a 'thing', and I've never been one for getting attached to stuff anyway.


exactly - that is the spirit.

you did the correct ting - get out quick. had you a fire extinguisher, the temptation is to tackle the flame and you'll probably have forgotten the shake it to unsettle the contenet or spent minutes reading the instuctions as the flames rose higher.

so wha't the next build gonna be?






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flak monkey

posted on 16/9/09 at 07:07 AM Reply With Quote
Gutted

Its always a worry on a home build. Would certainly consider a plumbed in fire extinguisher for mine now.

Hope the insurance claims go ok





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deezee

posted on 16/9/09 at 07:16 AM Reply With Quote
Sorry to hear that mate. Must of been agony to have to watch the car burn. At least your unscathed.






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philw

posted on 16/9/09 at 07:24 AM Reply With Quote
Oh no, gutted for you mate



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rallyingden

posted on 16/9/09 at 07:38 AM Reply With Quote
Maybe we should all learn from your misfortune and plumb in or at least carry a fire extinguisher.

As long as your OK the rest you can sort

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James

posted on 16/9/09 at 07:50 AM Reply With Quote


I never even got a decent go!

Sorry to hear that mate- it really was a lovely car.

Be careful with the remains- all sorts of nasties come out of burnt plastics in burnt cars. Some seriously nasty poisonous stuff that burns through your skin I believe.

Cheers,
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Mr Whippy

posted on 16/9/09 at 07:51 AM Reply With Quote
Tbh I’m going to order one of the extinguishers Fozzi posted a link too, looks a bargain

Every time I hear of this kind of thing I remember that you tube video of some poor sod trapped in a car and who burnt to death in it after another had hit theirs and not a single person tried to help





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David Jenkins

posted on 16/9/09 at 07:53 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
Absolutely no use to Jasper now, but to all of those still building, please, please seriously consider a plumbed in fire system......they are not fortunes, about £100......and easy to fit whilst still building...

Mine is a 'Lifeline Zero 2000' system
Linky Info

Hope this helps someone....

Fozzie


Fozzie,

How would these be fitted? I would obviously want coverage of the engine bay, but I'd also like something down the transmission tunnel and over the fuel tank. I see that that one has 2 outlets, so could I put a pipe each way?

Also - how big is the cylinder (size, not capacity) and could it go in the engine compartment? I suspect that it would have to go somewhere cooler.






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madrallysport

posted on 16/9/09 at 07:54 AM Reply With Quote
Gutted for you, at least your not hurt.

Fire is scary when it takes hold, you feel so helpless.





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Mr Whippy

posted on 16/9/09 at 08:01 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
Absolutely no use to Jasper now, but to all of those still building, please, please seriously consider a plumbed in fire system......they are not fortunes, about £100......and easy to fit whilst still building...

Mine is a 'Lifeline Zero 2000' system
Linky Info

Hope this helps someone....

Fozzie


Fozzie,

How would these be fitted? I would obviously want coverage of the engine bay, but I'd also like something down the transmission tunnel and over the fuel tank. I see that that one has 2 outlets, so could I put a pipe each way?

Also - how big is the cylinder (size, not capacity) and could it go in the engine compartment? I suspect that it would have to go somewhere cooler.


there is a diagram at the bottom -








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flak monkey

posted on 16/9/09 at 08:29 AM Reply With Quote
Installation doc here:

http://www.lifeline-fire.co.uk/downloads/101-225-001.pdf

SO yes you could put one pipe each way if you wanted to.

Need to find space for a system now... not sure how serious a fire they would put out. Both nozzles in the engine compartment?

You can get electronic ones as well, but they are more money.

David

[Edited on 16/9/09 by flak monkey]





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wilkingj

posted on 16/9/09 at 08:32 AM Reply With Quote
Sorry to hear of your disaster.

Glad no one was hurt.

Keep us all posted as to how the Insurance claim progresses, ie how good were the company.

The car can be replaced, people cant be.

Heartfelt commiserations to you.






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Jasper

posted on 16/9/09 at 08:41 AM Reply With Quote
Just been up to see it, the pikies have had the wheels and tyres, the only bits that weren't burnt ....

Insurance company told, not much else I can do... I've got agreed value insurance, with a £100 excess, should should be straight forward hopefully. I'm with Kinetic through Adrian Flux.

Cheers for all your kind words, and thanks for your message James, had my garage gloves on when I looked the car over.





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nick205

posted on 16/9/09 at 08:42 AM Reply With Quote
Jasper!

Really sorry to hear this - must be a killer having to stand there and watch it.

Glad you're OK and will live to build another

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James

posted on 16/9/09 at 08:45 AM Reply With Quote
Right! We've got all the being nice out the way....

Did you think it was a fuel leak? You said mis-firing?

and...

where's the bloody pictures?

[Edited on 16/9/09 by James]





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l0rd

posted on 16/9/09 at 09:00 AM Reply With Quote
Same kit but better price

http://www.peterlloydrallying.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=108

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Fozzie

posted on 16/9/09 at 09:09 AM Reply With Quote
It is far easier to install the system, whilst you are still building, and, I would imagine, just a bit more awkward to fit it after, but if you have your car off the road for winter, or you are doing winter mods, a good time IMHO to retro fit it then.

Most of the cars on this forum are 7-esques, therefore 99.99% one piece bonnet...there is no way you should even think about going near the bonnet to try and remove it if you have an engine bay fire!!!!!!

The actual cylinder sits at the bottom of my boot.....my car is also a bit different to the norm in that my tank sits behind the rear bulkhead as opposed to right behind the rear panel, but that should not make any difference.

I have a nozzle in the cockpit and a nozzle in the engine bay, pointed at the carbs.....I will try and post a pic up later.....

Of course, as with any fire, if it has really taken hold, no one will guarantee to save your car totally, however, it will minimise the damage.
One would hope that the cable was pulled as soon as a problem was noticed

I fitted mine in early 2003, but if I remember correctly, the nozzles spray to a 1 metre diameter.

There are instructions as to the positioning of the nozzles which is important especially in the cockpit.

As most of you are aware, I built my car to race as well as road, so I also incorporated an electrical 'kill' cable, that sits next to the fire 'pull' in the cockpit......pulling that will kill all electrics too......

If you do decide to fit..please think carefully where you position your cockpit 'pulls'.......they should be accessible to you the driver at least ( also for the passenger would be even better), to be able to reach and pull whilst strapped in your seat.......

Jasper, I cannot believe how brave you are being, my biggest regret is not having seen your car in the flesh so to speak. I am gutted enough for the both of us...

Still thanking the heavens that you are ok and unhurt.....

Fozzie





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Fozzie

posted on 16/9/09 at 09:12 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by l0rd
Same kit but better price

http://www.peterlloydrallying.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=108


In true locost style ^ ^ a £9 squid saving! excellent!

Fozzie





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Daddylonglegs

posted on 16/9/09 at 09:20 AM Reply With Quote
Sorry for the news mate

defo a lesson in there though as already said.

And as for the B******d Pikies, says it all really

JB





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