R1minimagic
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 06:36 PM |
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Best way to cut tyres off wheels
What's the best/easiest way without making too much mess?
Cheers
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davidwag
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 06:38 PM |
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How about the obvious, go to a tyre company and get them to take them off for you?
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 06:39 PM |
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Ok.....what's the best FREE way?!
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Steve G
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 06:40 PM |
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They have to pay to dispose of the tyres though so will charge you at least £5 per wheel i recon. Still the best way though without risking damage to
the wheel
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 06:45 PM |
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£5 per wheel, are you kidding me!!
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02GF74
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 06:46 PM |
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I asked about this - please search - air saw was the consensus - all the way round then some cunning way to cut the bead without damageing the rim, I
forget now how., . .. sill got mine to od.
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 06:49 PM |
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I was thinking my choices of weapon would be wood saw, angle grinder with plasma disc and finish off with a rotary tool on the wire rim....then chuck
the tyres over next doors fence.
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Steve G
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 06:50 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by R1minimagic
£5 per wheel, are you kidding me!!
Well i have had tyres removed and refitted after buying online and they charged £10 per wheel which i believe is quite typical. The tyre disposal will
be a couple of quid of that so no not kidding. Its cutting the bead thats the hard part
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 06:53 PM |
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I have never paid more than £1 for disposal.
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bmseven
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 07:08 PM |
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errr. .... I always use tyre levers  (Pick a pair up for £5 on ebay)
You can break the seal by gently driving over the tyre,,,,make sure you miss the rim
[Edited on 13/11/09 by bmseven]
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londonsean69
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 07:09 PM |
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Unless you are firendly with a tyre fitter, you are limited in what you can do without possibly damaging your wheels.
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Originally posted by R1minimagic
I was thinking my choices of weapon would be wood saw, angle grinder with plasma disc and finish off with a rotary tool on the wire rim....then
chuck the tyres over next doors fence.
What's a plasma disc??
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Originally posted by Steve G
Well i have had tyres removed and refitted after buying online and they charged £10 per wheel which i believe is quite typical. The tyre disposal will
be a couple of quid of that so no not kidding. Its cutting the bead thats the hard part
Yep, place near me that does part worns charges £10 to remove old, refit new with valve and balance, then dispose of old
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Originally posted by R1minimagic
I have never paid more than £1 for disposal.
Well why not go back to this magical mystical place and let them do it for you if disposal is only a quid.
I do hope you were not serious about chucking it over someone's fence.
Sean
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 07:15 PM |
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Yes I am deadly serious about it, my neighbour will know it's me as he is into minis too, but i will just deny it. He can make a birdhouse or
something out of them.
Shame the place i used to go to is about 4 hours drive away now!
I cant see why they should charge for disposal, someone is making a lot of money out of this somewhere, they probably all go to incinerator and
produce energy so they should pay us!!
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 07:20 PM |
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i have broken the bead before with a stack of concrete blocks and a plank of wood. then tyre levers.
no blood sweat or tears
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 07:21 PM |
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What is the 'bead' btw?
I assume it is where the tyre contacts the wheel?
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londonsean69
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 07:22 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by R1minimagic
Yes I am deadly serious about it, my neighbour will know it's me as he is into minis too, but i will just deny it. He can make a birdhouse or
something out of them.
In that case I hope he shits through your letter box and you destroy your wheels trying to get the tyres off, because you were too cheap to shell out
£20
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Originally posted by R1minimagicI cant see why they should charge for disposal, someone is making a lot of money out of this somewhere,
they probably all go to incinerator and produce energy so they should pay us!!
Why not? Not everyone else just flytips their old tyres.
To be perfectly honest, the UK has agreed to cut down on landfill and CO2. To do this is going to take vast sums of money.
As such, you paying for tyre disposal helps to cut down on landfill and CO2, although, to be perfectly honest, we are fighting a losing battle on
climate change.
I'm not an eco-warrior by the way, I just work for a company very in touch with these things, and also in an industry that is one of the biggest
carbon producers there is.
I can't wait to see how you will pay the 30% increase in your heating bills over the next few years, if you are too poor to spend £20 having
some tyres changed.
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 07:28 PM |
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How can it cut down on CO2 when they are burning them?
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MikeR
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 07:34 PM |
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Current favourite with tyres is to shred them into little bits.
They then do a few things with them - one is to mix it with tar and make the stuff they put onto kids play grounds instead of tarmac / concrete,
another is to use it as insulation. Plenty of applications - you just have to find them.
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 07:36 PM |
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Shredding them takes energy hence CO2 is produced, i want to know how paying my local garage to dispose of my tyres is cutting CO2 production...
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Steve G
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 07:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by R1minimagic
I cant see why they should charge for disposal, someone is making a lot of money out of this somewhere, they probably all go to incinerator and
produce energy so they should pay us!!
They are classified as controlled waste and there are numerous laws governing the disposal of old tyres (Environmental Protection Act 1990 for
starters). The tyre fitting places have to pay specialist companies these days to dispose of old tyres and so charge us for it.
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Daddylonglegs
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 07:40 PM |
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One of the guys on our local club site posted some piccies of wheel removal DIY-style.
This is how he broke the bead.....
 
Wheel Off
Once off, take them to your re-cycling centre. Ours has a skip for tyres 
It looks like the Midget is winning at the moment......
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 07:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by R1minimagic
Ok.....what's the best FREE way?!
Use Makeeverythings fuel oil mix and burn them off
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 07:50 PM |
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Lol that's more like it!!
It's all very well being regulated and all that but i bet every single part of that chain is making plenty of money out of it. Do you think the
garage that charges you a fiver to dispose of each tyre pays the next one down the line a fiver? Get real.
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MikeR
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 08:07 PM |
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no they probably pay 4 pounds and keep a pound to pay the person to do the admin, store the tyres on the land, hire the skip etc.
yes - it produces c02 to chop up the tyres, but so does digging hte raw material out of the ground that you need to replace the material the tyres are
used for. This way only 1 thing is dug up and not two + its re-used therefore reducing its total 'cost' through its life.
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londonsean69
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 08:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by R1minimagic
How can it cut down on CO2 when they are burning them?
They don't burn them
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Originally posted by MikeR
Current favourite with tyres is to shred them into little bits.
They then do a few things with them - one is to mix it with tar and make the stuff they put onto kids play grounds instead of tarmac / concrete,
another is to use it as insulation. Plenty of applications - you just have to find them.
Exactly. Local stables near me has them down in the riding school instead of sand
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Originally posted by R1minimagic
Shredding them takes energy hence CO2 is produced, i want to know how paying my local garage to dispose of my tyres is cutting CO2 production...
Creating them takes CO2
Fitting them takes CO2 (power for compressor)
Delivering them create CO2
Driving to get them changed makes CO2
Burning them creates huge clouds of CO2, plus other, much nastier chemicals.
You are paying for them to be disposed of/recycled in an environmentally friendly way, rather than some pikey dumping a lorry load of burning tyres in
your back garden
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Originally posted by Steve G
They are classified as controlled waste and there are numerous laws governing the disposal of old tyres (Environmental Protection Act 1990 for
starters). The tyre fitting places have to pay specialist companies these days to dispose of old tyres and so charge us for it.
Exactly, old oil has to be paid for, your household rubbish has to be paid for by you (council tax), everything has to be paid for.
The firms that do this are not a charity, they have seen an opening in the market and gone for it.
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Originally posted by Daddylonglegs
Once off, take them to your re-cycling centre. Ours has a skip for tyres
Same here, plus old batteries, scrap metal etc. Yes, they make a profit out of me taking it to them, but scrappies won't deal with small
household amounts usually
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Originally posted by R1minimagic
Lol that's more like it!!
It's all very well being regulated and all that but i bet every single part of that chain is making plenty of money out of it. Do you think the
garage that charges you a fiver to dispose of each tyre pays the next one down the line a fiver? Get real.
Do you work for a charity? Do you take home just enough to cover your living expenses and outgoings?
Why should anyone else?
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R1minimagic
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| posted on 13/11/09 at 08:16 PM |
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Ok so if what you are saying is true and there is a 'cost reduction' in producing whatever is produced by using the waste tyres and there
is also a 'cost increase' to the customer that buys the tyre in the first place as they are now paying for disposal, there is a lot of
money both being saved and being made, so it's us the customers (mugs) that are paying for it!
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