sonic
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 02:41 PM |
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Fuel prices
Are these garages starting to take the P-ss or what.
Locally to me the price of petrol has gone up over 4.9p in a week per litre.
And that doesnt include the budjet 1P at the start of April etc etc.
Locally to me it is currently £118.9 per litre which is an outrage!!!
Why no blockades,people moaning etc
I found out recently if you are a company of a certain size and have a fleet of vechicles cars/lorries etc and you use fuel cards ie Allstar,you now
get a rebate on the pump prices which means that the lorry drivers are happy leaving the rest of us to be stuffed!!!!! just like everything else.
Am i the only one noticing how much we are been ripped off or are people brewing something in there back garden and running there cars on that.
Rant over
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 02:44 PM |
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Unfortunately once we breached the £1/ltr they can charge more without us noticing to much... Might have to fit an efficient engine to the 7!
Dan
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D Beddows
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 02:50 PM |
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Rubbish yes BUT there should be protests outside the headquarters of the major banks instead, who we as taxpayers had to fund because they f**ked up
big time but now we have to refinance the country while they're back on easy street...... If it wasn't petrol it would be something else
(obviously if you've a banker who's just had a £100,000 bonus what do you care what you do - you've f**ked up BAD but 12 months
later you get a HUGE bonus so the bank doesn't loose you ......  )
[Edited on 25/3/10 by D Beddows]
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blakep82
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 02:52 PM |
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edit: forget that. i've had an idea 
but i've had another one too. imagine for a week, EVERYONE in the country phoned in sick for work. imagine the fuel that wouldn't be used,
the money that wouldn't be raised, and the money lost from business.
would certainly raise a few eyebrows. fuel is getting to a point where i'm starting to wonder if i can really afford to drive to work anymore,
and i certainly couldn't afford bus prices and times either
[Edited on 25/3/10 by blakep82]
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fesycresy
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 03:10 PM |
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Time to put the mileage charge up our customers from April 1st, held off long enough.
At least that'll give them something else to whinge at me for
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 03:12 PM |
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This is locostbuilders take a look at:
linky
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And
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I think you cant do this legally at home though in the uk... (might blowup the neighbors/drink it!)
Dan
[Edited on 25/3/10 by Bluemoon]
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flak monkey
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 03:15 PM |
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Yep 118.9 here too in most places and a lot of smaller garages are 122.9
Last time the prices dropped dramatically it was because the gov't had a go at the oil companies to bring their prices down as crude prices had
fallen.... well crude is still lower than it was at its peak (currently around $80/barrel i think and it peaked at nearly double...) but the oil
companies have snuck prices back up steadily almost week on week....
Trouble is no one is willing to protest about it.
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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coozer
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 03:16 PM |
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Its all over the place here. Last week was going up 1~2p every day but on friday for some reason there was a big drop.
My derv prices...
Thursday:
Tesco 116.9
BP 118.9
Total 118.9
Services 121.9
Friday:
Tesco 114.9
BP119.9
Total 114.9
Services 124.9
Of course LPG is still well under 60p and the veg oil in Tesco last night was £5 for 6 litres..
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blakep82
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 03:18 PM |
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don't mind the oil companies so much, they're the ones doing the work to get it to us. i have got a problem with the taxes though. we get
taxed on making money, and then again on spending it! and also the vat tax on the fuel tax that really takes it
[Edited on 25/3/10 by blakep82]
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boggle
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 03:23 PM |
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yet another bit of daylight robbery from them in power....
just because you are a character, doesnt mean you have character....
for all your bespoke parts, ali welding, waterjet, laser, folding, turning, milling, composite work, spraying, anodising and cad drawing....
u2u me for details
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omega0684
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 03:41 PM |
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you should see the pricing team at BP, they have never been so busy 
the highest BP price i have seen is Watford Gap Services, £123.9 for ULSP and £124.9 for DERV.
I love Pinto's, even if i did get mine from P&O!
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flak monkey
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 04:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
don't mind the oil companies so much, they're the ones doing the work to get it to us. i have got a problem with the taxes though. we get
taxed on making money, and then again on spending it! and also the vat tax on the fuel tax that really takes it
Hmm fuel duty actually only increase 2 or 3 times per year at around 2 or 3p at a time.
All other variation and rises during the year are due to the oil companies....so the 30-40p its gone up in the last 12 months is mostly down to the
oil companies, not the gov't.
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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andrew
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 04:23 PM |
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it is easily remedied if everybody boycots one fuel company for a week , eg BP one week then SHELL, and so on , they will soon sit up and take
notice ,,
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richardh
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 04:29 PM |
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the whole thing is now f-in disgusting!
what do we get for our council tax?
(what did the gov do before they brought in poll tax or whatever the hell they call it these days)
Where is all this tax money going? Most stuff is now privatised compared to years ago and now both parties in a house are working whilst 30 yrs ago
that was rare.
this country really is in the sh1t
Time for a change!
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zilspeed
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 04:55 PM |
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Must confess.
I'm still pretty happy with my 85p/litre bio.
Can't really think why I would want to opt for dinodiesel instead.
Now waiting for engine to blow up....
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AndyGT
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 05:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
don't mind the oil companies so much, they're the ones doing the work to get it to us. i have got a problem with the taxes though. we get
taxed on making money, and then again on spending it! and also the vat tax on the fuel tax that really takes it
Hmm fuel duty actually only increase 2 or 3 times per year at around 2 or 3p at a time.
All other variation and rises during the year are due to the oil companies....so the 30-40p its gone up in the last 12 months is mostly down to the
oil companies, not the gov't.
I thought fuel duty was calculated as a percentage? Then the VAT was then put on the fuel plus duty?
Correct me if I'm wrong...
nothing is impossible
everything is possible
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sebastiaan
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 05:18 PM |
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Stop moaning. We're at roughly 1,34 UKpounds/litre here in the Netherlands....
It's a supply/demand thing. Nothing more, nothing less...
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blakep82
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 05:26 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by AndyGT
quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
don't mind the oil companies so much, they're the ones doing the work to get it to us. i have got a problem with the taxes though. we get
taxed on making money, and then again on spending it! and also the vat tax on the fuel tax that really takes it
Hmm fuel duty actually only increase 2 or 3 times per year at around 2 or 3p at a time.
All other variation and rises during the year are due to the oil companies....so the 30-40p its gone up in the last 12 months is mostly down to the
oil companies, not the gov't.
I thought fuel duty was calculated as a percentage? Then the VAT was then put on the fuel plus duty?
Correct me if I'm wrong...
yep!
but when you look at it, how much is petrol ACTUALLY worth? ie how much money goes to the oil companies themselves? its only about 50p isn't it
(i don't actually know now, but it was 30p a couple of years ago)? the rest is tax. the government doesn't do any work to get the petrol
to us, but they get more money from it than the oil companies. thats what i have the problem with
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se7en
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 05:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Bluemoon
... Might have to fit an efficient engine to the 7!
Dan
I held on to a really good 1.3 Mk5/6 Escort engine just in case I had to change to something a bit more efficient. Don't know how much it would
save over the 1.8 CVH!
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D Beddows
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 06:16 PM |
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quote:
but when you look at it, how much is petrol ACTUALLY worth? ie how much money goes to the oil companies themselves? its only about 50p isn't it
(i don't actually know now, but it was 30p a couple of years ago)? the rest is tax. the government doesn't do any work to get the petrol
to us, but they get more money from it than the oil companies. thats what i have the problem with
errr.... the BANKS gave all our money to hillbillys in America to buy trailer homes they couldn't afford..... now WE have to pay it all back so
the BANKERS can continue to get their bonuses ....... nothing to do with oil companies really anymore it's all about tax .......
[Edited on 25/3/10 by D Beddows]
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Canada EH!
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 06:17 PM |
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Gees, I feel real lucky, only paying $101.9 a litre here, for our own gas, so thats about .75 litre to the pound.
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morcus
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 06:59 PM |
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I really don't understand how charging tax on tax is legal, it just doesn't make any sense what so ever.
I too want to know what all my tax is being squandered on, especially the council tax (Actually I know what they spend that on, blocking all the roads
when ever Calais decides to have the day off). There are Pot holes washing machine drums all around the town and even in the centre of town yet the
lowest council tax band is about £1000 and the town has a population of about 113500.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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sonic
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 07:40 PM |
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So what do you do about it?
We all moan about it for a day or so but everybody in this country just gets on with it and accepts it.
I am only talking about fuel at the moment,
I like the idea of boycotting the certain garages but with respect a few hundred Locosters isnt going to make the Sh-t them selves.
So what do you do?
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Paul TigerB6
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 07:48 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
yep!
but when you look at it, how much is petrol ACTUALLY worth? ie how much money goes to the oil companies themselves? its only about 50p isn't it
(i don't actually know now, but it was 30p a couple of years ago)? the rest is tax. the government doesn't do any work to get the petrol
to us, but they get more money from it than the oil companies. thats what i have the problem with
Its around about 45p that goes to cover all of the costs of the fuel including retailer's profit (most petrol stations are franchises),
transportation, refining, oil company profits, raw material etc etc.
Its not the likes of Shell and BP who set the crude oil price - thats OPEC, so pointless really to blame the oil companies who's profit margin
is pretty small (a few pence per litre)
Daylight robbery perpetrated by the government with all their taxes is the bit that annoys me - paying VAT on duty!!!!
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jacko
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| posted on 25/3/10 at 07:55 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by sonic
So what do you do about it?
We all moan about it for a day or so but everybody in this country just gets on with it and accepts it.
I am only talking about fuel at the moment,
I like the idea of boycotting the certain garages but with respect a few hundred Locosters isnt going to make the Sh-t them selves.
So what do you do?
Stop driving and get a bike 
SONIC for prime minister 
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