skinned knuckles
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 08:19 PM |
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Originally posted by Steve Hignett
I assume you're not being sarcastic above, and say - I think Phil was saying two grand as purely an arbritrary, cheap amount of money. He could
have said £3k, £4k, £8k etc all of which would be a long way away from what Westfield will give you a Megabusa in kit form for...
i actually don't think westy would offer a discount at all, that suggestion came from another locoster, i really dont think anyone would have
any interest in sponsoring this build in any way. i dont think a film crew would have any interest in filming me build a car with with a bunch of semi
skilled blokes drinking tea, eating burgers, having a laugh and taking the p155. I am fully aware that i am not the most charismatic bloke on the
planet, i dont have a great deal of mechanical knowledge and have a stutter that when i am nervous or a camera is pointed at me make me pretty much
incoherent so there is one seroius limitation with the whole filming thing.
however if any of the above were to come to fruition, i would be happy as a dog with the proverbial 2 doodahs. failing that i have to keep my fingers
crossed that my possible nestegg comes through and i can have a bit of fun with some like minded car enthusiasts that wish to share this experience
with me.
now will people lighten up please, this is meant to be fun!
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eddie99
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 08:21 PM |
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I agree on what everyone has said. Yes in some ways it might seem like hes trying to get a car for cheaper than westfield can build it for. But i
think as a fun perspective. It could be a good weekend!!! So cheer up fellow Locostbuilders!!! 
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 08:29 PM |
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Just to add (not that it seems necessary), but my comment was in regard to MY interpretation of just one thing that Phil Hellfire commented on - The
amount...
It's up to you to get a discount, but (as you've already stated) the only thing I would say is; If you are going to get a discount AND
raise money for charity, then keep them VERY seperate!
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skinned knuckles
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 08:36 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve Hignett
Just to add (not that it seems necessary), but my comment was in regard to MY interpretation of just one thing that Phil Hellfire commented on - The
amount...
It's up to you to get a discount, but (as you've already stated) the only thing I would say is; If you are going to get a discount AND
raise money for charity, then keep them VERY seperate!
The whole fund faising for charity thing was going to start once i had secured the kit from westy. the start was going to be the sale of all the bits
i have amassed so far for the build of the haynes i'm currently doing. but in order to keep the 2 things completely seperate please let this be
the last mention of the charity side of this. it was a mistake to mention it at this stage. sorry for muddying the waters
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Bluemoon
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 08:38 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve Hignett
Just to add (not that it seems necessary), but my comment was in regard to MY interpretation of just one thing that Phil Hellfire commented on - The
amount...
It's up to you to get a discount, but (as you've already stated) the only thing I would say is; If you are going to get a discount AND
raise money for charity, then keep them VERY seperate!
I agree, otherwise your good intentions could be more trouble than would first seem..
Still If I was living nearby I would'nt mind joining in. Not sure I would want the car though as the quality would be out of my hands (I think
I'm probably a control freak, so that might just be me!)...
Dan
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skinned knuckles
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 08:44 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Bluemoon
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Hignett
Just to add (not that it seems necessary), but my comment was in regard to MY interpretation of just one thing that Phil Hellfire commented on - The
amount...
It's up to you to get a discount, but (as you've already stated) the only thing I would say is; If you are going to get a discount AND
raise money for charity, then keep them VERY seperate!
I agree, otherwise your good intentions could be more trouble than would first seem..
Still If I was living nearby I would'nt mind joining in. Not sure I would want the car though as the quality would be out of my hands (I think
I'm probably a control freak, so that might just be me!)...
Dan
have you seen some of the blokes that work in car factorys? i think i feel safer driving something that a few locosters have chucked together. besides
i am hoping that someone that knows what they are doing is going to offer help and supervise/oversee the bits that couls kill me if they go wrong
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richard thomas
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 08:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by skinned knuckles
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Hignett
Just to add (not that it seems necessary), but my comment was in regard to MY interpretation of just one thing that Phil Hellfire commented on - The
amount...
It's up to you to get a discount, but (as you've already stated) the only thing I would say is; If you are going to get a discount AND
raise money for charity, then keep them VERY seperate!
The whole fund faising for charity thing was going to start once i had secured the kit from westy. the start was going to be the sale of all the bits
i have amassed so far for the build of the haynes i'm currently doing. but in order to keep the 2 things completely seperate please let this be
the last mention of the charity side of this. it was a mistake to mention it at this stage. sorry for muddying the waters
Now that's cleared up my suggestion would be to get the maximum amount of discount/sponsorship/donations you can get away with short of selling
your body. Pretty sure that Mark Evans ended up with a couple of cars (and a plane) that he didn't lay out for, plus a wage to boot...go for
it!
Wish I'd bloody thought of it for my build....
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Hellfire
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 08:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by richard thomas
Steve, I kind of understood what Phil was getting at...
At the outset of the original thread I suggested that a discount on a kit might be possible given the publicity that might be brought off the back of
the build if it was featured in a mag or something...that discount (if possible) might be menial or considerable - who knows? If I was a betting man I
would say that somebody like westfield would be unlikely to give a major discount - they don't need to...sell enough anyway.
However I do feel that Phil's suggestion that this fella's going to get a 15 grand car for 2 grand, as opposed to suggesting that he might
get it for (say) 14.5 grand is slightly inflammatory?
Rich.
As Steve said, £2K was just an arbitrary figure to go with the two day build.
Like I said previously, maybe it's just how I've interpreted the posts but it sounds to me as though the whole idea (now) is to get
publicity, then sponsorship from various companies (to offset the build cost) and also a discount on the kit from Westfield and to build it in as
short a timescale as possible.
I've no idea how much the kit would cost but I'd hazard a guess at about £11K. After discount and possible sponsorship deals, lets say
£8K. It takes two days to build and would probably be worth twice what it cost, thanks to the efforts and time of eight Locostbuilders members.
If it were to cost £14.5K and be worth only £15K when completed, then I don't think the project would have ever been considered.......
Phil
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kevmcdo
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 08:53 PM |
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Good luck with the project mate, I hope it comes together for you.
A few friends and I did a similar exercise a few years ago with a two damaged reparable bikes.
The bikes were wrecks on the Friday and by Sunday night they were ready for use again come Monday morning.
The main thing was we all had a great time doing it and still have a laugh at each others expense when it comes to comparing our mechanical abilities
!!!
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skinned knuckles
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 09:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
quote:
Originally posted by richard thomas
Steve, I kind of understood what Phil was getting at...
At the outset of the original thread I suggested that a discount on a kit might be possible given the publicity that might be brought off the back of
the build if it was featured in a mag or something...that discount (if possible) might be menial or considerable - who knows? If I was a betting man I
would say that somebody like westfield would be unlikely to give a major discount - they don't need to...sell enough anyway.
However I do feel that Phil's suggestion that this fella's going to get a 15 grand car for 2 grand, as opposed to suggesting that he might
get it for (say) 14.5 grand is slightly inflammatory?
Rich.
As Steve said, £2K was just an arbitrary figure to go with the two day build.
Like I said previously, maybe it's just how I've interpreted the posts but it sounds to me as though the whole idea (now) is to get
publicity, then sponsorship from various companies (to offset the build cost) and also a discount on the kit from Westfield and to build it in as
short a timescale as possible.
I've no idea how much the kit would cost but I'd hazard a guess at about £11K. After discount and possible sponsorship deals, lets say
£8K. It takes two days to build and would probably be worth twice what it cost, thanks to the efforts and time of eight Locostbuilders members.
If it were to cost £14.5K and be worth only £15K when completed, then I don't think the project would have ever been considered.......
Phil
please don't presume to tell me what i would or wouldn't have considered as a project. if i could refer you back to my original post it
stated that i could be coming into a few quid and wanted to buy a kit but see how quick i could build it with help of other locosters. discount,
sponsorship etc wasn't even mentioned. 
am i to assume that you have never paid less than RRP for anything?
[Edited on 15/4/10 by skinned knuckles]
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skinned knuckles
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 09:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by kevmcdo
Good luck with the project mate, I hope it comes together for you.
A few friends and I did a similar exercise a few years ago with a two damaged reparable bikes.
The bikes were wrecks on the Friday and by Sunday night they were ready for use again come Monday morning.
The main thing was we all had a great time doing it and still have a laugh at each others expense when it comes to comparing our mechanical abilities
!!!
cheers mate
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Hellfire
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 09:25 PM |
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I like to save money as much as the next Locostbuilder but I think that getting others to help you build your kit, on the pretence that it'll be
a laugh to see if you can build it quicker than Mark Evans, is a bit lame. Afterall, time is money...........
Anyway, regardless of what I think, good luck with the project, I sincerely hope you manage to achieve your goal.
Phil
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iDENTITi
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 09:28 PM |
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Good idea to be honest. Seems a little bit of a paperwork headache though..
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skinned knuckles
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 09:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
I like to save money as much as the next Locostbuilder but I think that getting others to help you build your kit, on the pretence that it'll be
a laugh to see if you can build it quicker than Mark Evans, is a bit lame. Afterall, time is money...........
Anyway, regardless of what I think, good luck with the project, I sincerely hope you manage to achieve your goal.
Phil
thanks for your good wishes Phil, are you sure you dont want to join us if it ever takes off? a bloke with your track record in building bec's
would be more than welcome..... come on i'd buy you a pint when its finished
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Hellfire
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 09:38 PM |
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Let me know if it ever takes off and I'll consider it. I'm sure it would be fun and I wouldn't mind seeing how a Megabusa Westy goes
together........
Phil
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skinned knuckles
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 09:45 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
Let me know if it ever takes off and I'll consider it. I'm sure it would be fun and I wouldn't mind seeing how a Megabusa Westy goes
together........
Phil
i'll take that as a yes then. your on the list don't worry your in pencil, you can remove yourself at any time
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Tipster69
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 09:55 PM |
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And regardless of anything that has been said in this thread, I'm still more than willing to offer up my time to make you all as many cups of
tea as required 
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skinned knuckles
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| posted on 15/4/10 at 09:58 PM |
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Originally posted by Tipster69
And regardless of anything that has been said in this thread, I'm still more than willing to offer up my time to make you all as many cups of
tea as required
you are already on the list mate, and your in biro!
just so you know, 2 sugars and a splash of semi skimmed
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Benzine
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| posted on 16/4/10 at 06:16 AM |
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I'd try and get it all funded and then auction the car off after it's done for HTH
HTH!
The mental gymnastics a landlord will employ to justify immoral actions is clinically fascinating. Just because something is legal doesn't make
it moral.
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