Poll: Worksafe Avitars [View Results]
Don't care - don't have kids/wife/personnel/security/netnanny looking over my shoulder
Don't mind the occassional bit of skantilly dressed woman
Nothing suggestive (from women in bikinis to topless to nude whether it be catoon or human). Completely work safe.



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ewanspence

posted on 25/5/06 at 06:49 AM Reply With Quote
Worksafe Avitars

ooops, I managed to get blank lines between the options. Can't edit the poll questions iether.

I know its "boring old fart" mode but some of our employers have sacked people for less and I do like (and am permitted) to use the web during work hour and don't have the same "free time" when at home.

Not sure if a poll has been done before couldn't find one.

It has been mentioned in a post recently

recnet linky

and an older link

Older Linky

some avitars a not worksafe in the current harrassment and bullying age we live in.

Can we have a poll on what we should have as an acceptable avitar?

[Edited on 25/5/06 by ewanspence]





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ewanspence

posted on 25/5/06 at 06:54 AM Reply With Quote
for work (financial) reasons I don't want anything that could be challenged by my employer.

this is a car site so I would prefer car avitars anyway, if I want porn I could do a google and find loads.

"old fart" maybe but quite like keeping my job and still browse during the day while at work.

[Edited on 25/5/06 by ewanspence]





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BKLOCO

posted on 25/5/06 at 07:05 AM Reply With Quote
I'm in 101% agreement with this.
I have the same agreement at work.
I have allready been pulled for this. Fortunately not by anyone who was going to do anything about it.
In the organisation I work I could be sacked. I know it's madness but thats the way it is and I would really like to keep my job just a little longer.





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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 25/5/06 at 07:09 AM Reply With Quote
Could not agree more laddie....

They are an unwelcome viewing on the worx computer.

And suggestions of blocking pix ect wont work cause you are banned from down loading software on the works machines......






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Hellfire

posted on 25/5/06 at 07:10 AM Reply With Quote
It has been covered before with no self policing or change. My children often like to see what I'm doing on the net - and as I'm often on LB just browsing I occasionally have to skip past a few of the more fruity ones - which I do object to.

It's a shame that some of us who frequent LB in their place of work will either loose their jobs or LB will be on the list of BARRED websites due to political incorrectness.

I personally don't have a problem with it as it's all harmless fun - but I do resent my children being subject to it.

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flak monkey

posted on 25/5/06 at 07:14 AM Reply With Quote
What's acceptable in one place of work, wouldnt be in another. Where I work in the summer they would have no objections to my avatars, but they would to someones like weldermans for instance....





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timmy

posted on 25/5/06 at 07:18 AM Reply With Quote
Yep - totally agree. But there is a way around it. If you're using Firefox, you can install the AdBlocker and you can either :
- block individual Avatars (from memory there are only 2 or 3 regulars who have them)
- block all images from the site
- block all images coming from the /upload folder on this site.

HTH,

Tim

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BKLOCO

posted on 25/5/06 at 07:19 AM Reply With Quote
As a point of interest what are we proposing to do should the poll reveal that these avatars are unwanted?
Self policeing has been tried before, and whilst in the main it works there are some on here that simply ignore it.
I could probably succesfully argue at work that bikini clad was not offensive but I would seriously struggle with avatars like the one used by Welderman.
Please can we ALL take responsibility for this this time?
It's not a case of being a "boring old fart"
It's a case of "respecting each other"





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BKLOCO

posted on 25/5/06 at 07:21 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by timmy
Yep - totally agree. But there is a way around it. If you're using Firefox, you can install the AdBlocker and you can either :
- block individual Avatars (from memory there are only 2 or 3 regulars who have them)
- block all images from the site
- block all images coming from the /upload folder on this site.


HTH,

Tim


Could you try to persuade my employers to switch to Firefox please?

Although this is good information it is actually irellavant as most companies still use IE.





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ewanspence

posted on 25/5/06 at 07:25 AM Reply With Quote
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At my work I would get pulled up (probably not sacked) even for your image should I get caught with it on my screen, even though it is a simple album cover.

All employers should be using the same guidelines for what is acceptable but I guess it also depends on what sort of complaints (and unfair dismisal court cases) they have from employees as to what they enforce.

We have 1500 employees in our site and 25000 worldwide so I ss they are just trying to keep everyone happy and not display something that may offend anyone.

We have had numerous sacking for abuse of work computers for even downloading software or music and obviously xxx pictures.

I have no issue with these sort of thing at home (my wife would have though)





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posted on 25/5/06 at 07:26 AM Reply With Quote
I've commented before and will do so again.

PLEASE STOP USING NON WORK SAFE AVATARS!

I love using this site, I love the community on here but I HATE the fact that the minority cause me to risk getting an official warning when i'm at work.

One of the ideas about this site is its self policing and i'd love this to continue. The only way i can see this to work is if we do "self police" and request the people who offend to stop. I know we're stopping someones personal expression here but for gods sake, we're a car builders site not a soft porn producers site.

As for the idea of using a different browser - an even more serious offence, downloading and running un-authorised s/w. Instant dismissal.

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ewanspence

posted on 25/5/06 at 07:29 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by timmy
- block all images coming from the /upload folder on this site.

HTH,

Tim



would this then stop any image within a post being blocked also?





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JoelP

posted on 25/5/06 at 07:36 AM Reply With Quote
as usual the poll will be quite decisive, and as usual, the offending avatars never disappear...
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welderman

posted on 25/5/06 at 07:43 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
What's acceptable in one place of work, wouldnt be in another. Where I work in the summer they would have no objections to my avatars, but they would to someones like weldermans for instance....


Point taken, changed it now. Sorry to see her go.





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Scotty

posted on 25/5/06 at 07:58 AM Reply With Quote
changed mine as well, just to be safe and keep everyone happy..... UNLESS you object to SEMI-NAKED pictures of my kit ?????







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fesycresy

posted on 25/5/06 at 07:59 AM Reply With Quote
I use the site at work more than the at home, so if the numbers drop then that's shite. It's a pity that some employers are so annal that you can't have a picture of a lovely lady in your avatar (you've got to admit that weldermans is superb).

I have a good calender behind my desk, Fluff n' Stuff (watch peoples faces during interviews ) and a naked Kelly Brook on my desk top, I suppose some may be offended, but I don't give a f**k.

I was thinking of changing my avatar, so for now I'll avoid any tits.





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flak monkey

posted on 25/5/06 at 08:02 AM Reply With Quote
I'm quite happy to change mine if it causes that much greif! Maybe a little tall

[Edited on 25/5/06 by flak monkey]





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ReMan

posted on 25/5/06 at 08:32 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ewanspence

We have had numerous sacking for abuse of work computers for even downloading software or music and obviously xxx pictures.

I have no issue with these sort of thing at home (my wife would have though)


So have we!
Though I don't have a problem with it at home!

I consider it a privelidge, not a right, that I can use my work laptop for private use at all and it is very nice at times, to have a look at lunchtimes, and breaks, for instance, at the latest posts etc.
Whatsmore I even have a 3G card so I can get online when i'm on site in customers premises!

However, the document that I signed at work, precludes me from accessing "INAPPROPRIATE" material on it.

It does not neccesarily need to specify what that may be , wether it is bare breasts, bikini breasts, badger baiting or whatever!!
If it does not belong in the modern workplace, then I potentially put myself at risk of disciplinary action by accessing it.
And if I accidentally access something "inappropriate" I am supposed to close it immediatly and report the occurence to our IT department, who will, I presume, block the URL to prevent any further acess by anyone in our (Worldwide)organisation, ever!

I think this "INAPPROPRIATE" is the key word here, if you apply the logic, WTF has a pair of tits got to do with a website supposedly dedicated to building sportscars for £250!
Whilst you could probably dismiss 50% of the avatars as not being appropriate or relevant to car building, some are very obviously less so than others!

I love this forum and its been a key part in the building of my car and I would hate to lose the privelige of being able to access it when I choose.

PERHAPS? This time the serial offenders will take notice and accept the reasons for the concerns.
It's not that we don't like to see these images ever, its about not being able to avoid them as avatars.
And that the year is 2006 and it's not about employers being anal, but about a very real threat of litaigation and cries of "constructive dismissal" or "harrassment"by the over sensitive money grabbers out there who are just looking for an opportunity to take a business to the cleaners.

Probably the longest post i've ever written, i'll stop now.
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Gav

posted on 25/5/06 at 09:25 AM Reply With Quote
When this was covered previously i offered to write an addin for the users control panel so they can select a tick box to enable/disable the showing of avatars.

However i got no response from the ChrisW to give me the go ahead.

Im still happy to write this to give individual users the option of disabling avatars long as ChrisW can find the time to install the patch.

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emsfactory

posted on 25/5/06 at 09:26 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by welderman
quote:
Originally posted by flak monkey
What's acceptable in one place of work, wouldnt be in another. Where I work in the summer they would have no objections to my avatars, but they would to someones like weldermans for instance....


Point taken, changed it now. Sorry to see her go.


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DarrenW

posted on 25/5/06 at 09:27 AM Reply With Quote
Im happy the way it is but thats cos i dont work in a large office and my Boss is a top lad.


All i would say maybe it would be nice to have a button in the profile section that would allow avatars to be either hidden or visible.


This topic has been covered before and it couldnt be argued either way such that ChrisW had a clear view. Maybe a new pole for the hidden option would be the way to go.






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BKLOCO

posted on 25/5/06 at 11:31 AM Reply With Quote
If we are to self police may I ask that in the future if inapropriate avatars are displayed that we all speak with a similar polite voice and request the member to remove it.

In the past encouragement has been given when "inapropriate" avatars have been posted.
This sends the wrong message.

Please think before posting is what I'm trying so say I guess.

I never look at "Mad House" when in work but have been "caught" once or twice opening things from the home list. Pleasecould we all state in the subject if something is NOT work safe.





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muzchap

posted on 25/5/06 at 12:10 PM Reply With Quote
Why don't we have a 'watershed' approach?

In your profile - you set the the times you want adult content to be displayed.

E.g. between 08:00 - 21:00 - no adult avatars.

This will allow a COMPROMISE for those wishing to see tits and those not - so between these times these avatars will not be visible too you.

It allows full customisable control.

It will however need coding!

If you don't employ a watershed - you will see everything all of the time...

Sound fair?





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Jumpy Guy

posted on 25/5/06 at 12:10 PM Reply With Quote
remarkably even result, about 50%/50% so far....

As for people at work, GET SOME BLOODY WORK DONE!!!

No wonder British industry is stuffed!!

stop moaning about avatars and spoiling it for the rest of us!!

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DarrenW

posted on 25/5/06 at 12:47 PM Reply With Quote
i never understand these polls - ive voted twice so far - is that allowed?






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